I'm not understanding the whole wedding/engagement business
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
No man with a sane mind really buys diamond rings or any expensive jeweler out of love, or because he believes that it looks great on his SO with her dress or whatever, no man I know give a damn about jewelry (the other reason for buying them would be business investment, but that's another story).
Men buy those stuff, because they are kinda socially obligated to do so; otherwise they would be judged as cheapskate (and possibly including their SO), to the extent that would seriously jeopardize the relationship.
De Beers succeeded to force men buying them by creating an ambiance of social and psychological abuse toward them.
Men buy those stuff, because they are kinda socially obligated to do so; otherwise they would be judged as cheapskate (and possibly including their SO), to the extent that would seriously jeopardize the relationship.
De Beers succeeded to force men buying them by creating an ambiance of social and psychological abuse toward them.
But of a generalisation against men. Some actually like choosing jewellery that they think would suit their so. Hell my border has been looking at engagement ring for his so but they have diagreed because he likes square shaped ad she like teardrop.
Why does a man have to be insane if he enjoys buying his loved one jewelry because he things it is pretty?
I believe I am in more in touch with the manosphere and I know what men talk when no woman is around.
There are a lot of things men don't talk about when there's any female presence. ie very naughty jokes, or common behaviors among women they bitterly hate...etc
I have heard many of them saying how much they find the whole concept of diamonds and fancy wedding cermonies stupid.
A married friend once told me "a man wouldn't mind to sleep single and wakes up married the next morning without any party, the whole wedding thing is to please the woman and family."
I am not being politically correct, but this is a reality in life.
and I can assure you this: Men buy them because they're socially coerced to do so.
Just because a man thinks a ring looks uglier or prettier than the others (for equal prices) doesn't mean that he's not doing the whole thing out of social obligation and insecurity.
Don't ever think for a second that a middle-class man would be like "Ohh... this $10000 ring that my SO wishes to have looks awesome, I will it buy it because I love her so much and it would look great on her!"
What really more likely going in mind: "I better buy this ring, there are other men who can afford this".
A lot of honesty is concealed due to these socially-induced fears, I am here to shatter some of the delusions that you had in mind

Oh wow delusions? Just because my opinions and the men I have spoken too are different from yours do not make them delusions lol
Maybe men dont discuss if they think things are pretty or if they like them because of the stigma of men to man up and not talk about 'girly things'? while many men may not be this way it does not mean that all men are the same.
Also abot you metioning the manosphere is f*****g hilarious hahaha. everytime you say something about women and women disagree wit you you argue with them and ignore their opinions despite them being more in tune with the 'womansphere' and knowing what women talk about when men are around

Can believe that in the same post your having a go at me for assuming what men are thinking your assuming that women expect massive rings.
I have no idea how much my ring costs and I do not care because my fiancee choose it because he liked it and wanted to give it to me. Mind you he would never say that to his mates or collegues because he would be teased about it.
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YippySkippy wrote:
Women are individuals. Men are individuals. Yes, there are sheeple who buy diamonds because they're "supposed" to. But not everyone who buys one is a sheeple. And many couples buy other types of rings, or no ring at all.
People who go against the flow are rare, and both individuals of a couple happen to be like this is something even rarer, it is pure luck.
Honestly I don't see many couples doing it differently.
I see all except very few exceptions.
Just a small reminder: It's not only me who is stereotyping here, the OP was stereotyping too, she was talking about men, women and fathers and how they all usually act regarding marriage and wedding; the main thread was talking about common stereotypical social acts; and we can't bury our heads in sand and pretend that they don't exist, a lot and in abundance- and say that we are all individuals.
Societies are not entirely individualistic.