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19 Aug 2020, 12:09 am

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Fankly I'd rather honor them than I would an Abrahamic God who pretends to be good (in my opinion). No offense meant.


The Abrahamic god/s were also quite petulant and impatient with humanity.



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19 Aug 2020, 12:12 am

Zues was the oversexed cheating husband, Hera was the vengeful wife, Hestia was the homebody, Aphrodite was the wanton woman, Demeter was the protective mother to her daughter Persephone, Aries was the warrior, etc. I could probably think of ways to compare every God and Goddess to relatable aspects of human nature if I thought hard enough.


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19 Aug 2020, 12:18 am

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Fankly I'd rather honor them than I would an Abrahamic God who pretends to be good (in my opinion). No offense meant.


The Abrahamic god/s were also quite petulant and impatient with humanity.[/quote[]

Indeed but I really don't feel like arguing religion. I just wanted to talk about Goddesses...


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19 Aug 2020, 12:25 am

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Zues was the oversexed cheating husband, Hera was the vengeful wife, Hestia was the homebody, Aphrodite was the wanton woman, Demeter was the protective mother to her daughter Persephone, Aries was the warrior, etc. I could probably think of ways to compare every God and Goddess to relatable aspects of human nature if I thought hard enough.


Yes indeed, very relatable :lol:



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19 Aug 2020, 12:57 am

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She is. Like I said, Loki isn't big on the whole fidelity thing. He and Angrboda spawned Hel, Fenris and the Midgard Serpent, and in order to cheat on a bet he decided to turn into a mare and seduce a horse. The he had to stay a mare unti he gave birth to Sleipnir, Odins eight-legged horse.


Was Freya Odin's wife or Thors? also how come the thoroughly christianised Anglo-Saxons retained the religious days for the old gods? namely Odin's day, Thor's day and Freya's day??


Neither. Thors wife was Sif, and Odins wife was Frigg. Freyja's husband was Odr. Freyja/Frigg and Odin/Odr may or may not be the same people due to old norse poetry being very, very keen on giving everyone multiple poetic names, but that could go either way. As for why the days retained their pagan names, I actually don't know.


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19 Aug 2020, 3:02 am

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Neither. Thors wife was Sif, and Odins wife was Frigg. Freyja's husband was Odr. Freyja/Frigg and Odin/Odr may or may not be the same people due to old norse poetry being very, very keen on giving everyone multiple poetic names, but that could go either way. .

That's interesting, there's a common swear word in English which is "Frigg" or "Friggin....insert swear word" I wonder if this is derived from saying "by Frigg" or "oh Frigg" the same way we precede jesus! before swearing. I imagine our ancestors would swear by the gods like the old Romans.

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As for why the days retained their pagan names, I actually don't know.


Mysterious....I have googled the answer but to no avail



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20 Aug 2020, 9:36 pm

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Maybe because the Christians were too busy converting [ahem--persecuting and brainwashing] people in larger ways and decided that changing the days of the week weren't worth the trouble.



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20 Aug 2020, 9:41 pm

Interesting. I have a Mexican friend, Catholic, who is always saying ojala. He says it like "if only", but I am pretty sure it means something like "Allah willing" :jester: :heart:


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20 Aug 2020, 10:15 pm

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Maybe because the Christians were too busy converting [ahem--persecuting and brainwashing] people in larger ways and decided that changing the days of the week weren't worth the trouble.

On the contrary. England was exposed to the same religious inquisition against paganism experienced in the rest of Europe. Many hundreds of young English women were burned at the stake for making herbal medicine to tend to sick family. We know this type of witch burning continued into the new world in the USA famously in Salem.

So the idea that these same inquisitors who cleansed England of its pagan roots overlooked that the days of the week venerating pagan gods seems remarkably weird? not to mention that many of the christian founding fathers of the USA (including clergy) were freemasons who secretly paid homage to pagan gods.

Have a look at renaissance art and architecture in Europe and in the US there's plenty of pagan symbolism. For example one of many includes the symbol for medicine which is two serpents crawling up a staff which is as pagan as Donald Trump's hair is orange.

History contains lots of holes....



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20 Aug 2020, 10:53 pm

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Maybe because the Christians were too busy converting [ahem--persecuting and brainwashing] people in larger ways and decided that changing the days of the week weren't worth the trouble.

On the contrary. England was exposed to the same religious inquisition against paganism experienced in the rest of Europe. Many hundreds of young English women were burned at the stake for making herbal medicine to tend to sick family. We know this type of witch burning continued into the new world in the USA famously in Salem.

So the idea that these same inquisitors who cleansed England of its pagan roots overlooked that the days of the week venerating pagan gods seems remarkably weird? not to mention that many of the christian founding fathers of the USA (including clergy) were freemasons who secretly paid homage to pagan gods.

Have a look at renaissance art and architecture in Europe and in the US there's plenty of pagan symbolism. For example one of many includes the symbol for medicine which is two serpents crawling up a staff which is as pagan as Donald Trump's hair is orange.

History contains lots of holes....



Actually the victims of the Salem Witch Trials were not burned, they were hung. One man was crushed to death with large rocks.

Speaking of America's Pagan Goddesses here's Columbia the Goddess of the New World.

https://pagangrove.wordpress.com/2016/0 ... f-america/

Also Lady Liberty was based off the Goddess Libertas and Lady Justice was the Goddess Athena. Also the golden winged lady weilding a torch who appears on our sports trophies is Nike, the Goddess of Victory.

Pretty ironic for "One Nation Under God". ;)


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20 Aug 2020, 11:00 pm

As for America's symbol for medicine, the caduceus, it actually had nothing to do with medicine. It was a staff associated with merchants and thieves. The REAL staff of healing was the asclepius distinguished by the fact that it had no wings and only one snake.

Ironic when you consider the absurdly expensive cost of healthcare in this country. :nerdy:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4439707/


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20 Aug 2020, 11:46 pm

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Also Lady Liberty was based off the Goddess Libertas and Lady Justice was the Goddess Athena. Also the golden winged lady weilding a torch who appears on our sports trophies is Nike, the Goddess of Victory.

Pretty ironic for "One Nation Under God". ;)


Did you know the Spanish catholic priests on the west coast of the US supported the naming of the state of California after an African goddess

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/you ... lack-queen



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20 Aug 2020, 11:55 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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Also Lady Liberty was based off the Goddess Libertas and Lady Justice was the Goddess Athena. Also the golden winged lady weilding a torch who appears on our sports trophies is Nike, the Goddess of Victory.

Pretty ironic for "One Nation Under God". ;)


Did you know the Spanish catholic priests on the west coast of the US supported the naming of the state of California after an African goddess

https://face2faceafrica.com/article/you ... lack-queen


Nope, but now I do! :D

Gee, I wonder if we offended our own American Pagan Goddesses Columbia, Liberty, and Justice and now they have foresaken us? :scratch:


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21 Aug 2020, 12:04 am

Also the terrorist group Isis is named after one of Ancient Egypt's most important goddesses.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Isis-Egyptian-goddess


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21 Aug 2020, 12:50 am

Dont think they are. It's an acronym for "the Islamic State In Syria". Don't let's be sullying a classical godess by associating her with the scum of the earth.


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21 Aug 2020, 1:47 am

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Also the terrorist group Isis is named after one of Ancient Egypt's most important goddesses.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Isis-Egyptian-goddess


Truth is stranger than fiction when it comes to the Egyptian goddess Isis
https://trfemu.pressbooks.com/chapter/i ... er-of-god/