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sinsboldly
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28 Mar 2009, 3:36 pm

I never got this 'boys and girls' thing when I was younger. When my hormones came in I didn't question I was a girl because I suppose I never argued with the logic of my body. I was attracted to men, sexually, and soon learned what made them tick, sexually, too. But I wondered if I was more 'manly' than other girls/women I knew because I liked history and working with my chemistry set (that my mother swapped out for a children' cook book).

I have had women attracted to me, and I liked them well enough, sexually, but there wasn't the intense driving force of the testosterone to focus me. Went to 'woman's coffeehouses' and enjoyed myself, did my usual 'go alone, leave alone' because I never catch on that men OR women are trying to flag me down with body or facial language. One day some nice looking woman finally cut though my fog and I realized this was a pick up scene and what the fux was I doing here?

So, later, I found that having men cater to my every beck and call was fun. (my dominatrix years) My problem was I thought it was supposed to be sexual too. I was mostly incorrect about that. (shrug)
Oh, well.

I like testosterone, I would have had a nice natural Vandyke moustache and beard in just the same pattern as my brother had I not spent a lifetime of shaving and electrolysis and pluck, pluck, pluck every week. I have a low voice, but no one has ever mistaken me as a boy/man.

now, after menopause, I am looking forward to becoming a crone, a wise woman, a non sexual being. If it happens, I will let you all know. :roll:

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28 Mar 2009, 3:42 pm

^ chuckle. :lol:



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28 Mar 2009, 5:35 pm

I feel pretty androgynous most of the time, with a slight leaning in the scale toward masculinity. I think a lot of it has to do with my voice which is usually monotone, and my interests which are pretty typically male, so I worry I appear more masculine to others. I compensate for this by trying to have a very femine appearance of skirts and a lot of make up.



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28 Mar 2009, 7:14 pm

No, never did. For years, the masses assumed otherwise. Now perception and reality have converged.



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29 Mar 2009, 1:35 am

I really do feel like both - one or the other - man or woman - at different times.
As a child i was always mistaken for a feral boy.
i am happy as I am. i think it is wonderful to have a grasp on both sexes in this way.



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29 Mar 2009, 9:17 am

millie wrote:
... i think it is wonderful to have a grasp on both sexes in this way.


I agree. And on the other side of the coin, it can be severely limiting at times not to have a grasp on either one. At other times it can feel liberating.



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30 Mar 2009, 10:40 am

I feel as if I'm in a grey area, neither male nor properly female. :? My hobbies tend to be more 'gender neutral' ones. Sometimes I'll respond to things in a more emotional way, other times I'll respond very practically and in a more stereotypically male way. If a roomful of people are separated into men and women, I don't feel an instinctive urge to go and join either side - I can't quite relate fully to the men because I don't usually share many of their specific interests, but if I try to fit in with the women, it quickly becomes clear that 75% of their way of thinking is totally different from mine. The sort of things that seem to be vitally important to all of them just aren't important to me.

Like cute things such as baby animals, but the same doesn't apply to human babies, who I generally find remarkably distasteful and annoying. Even the un-annoying ones I'm just neutral about.

Like pastel colors and pretty patterns, but it doesn't extend to any interest whatsoever in fashion.

Very aesthetically and emotionally drawn to attractive men, crushing on actors/singers, but identify as asexual sexually, and vastly prefer pretty, androgynous types, finding conventional 'hunks' ugly.

Like flowers. Also really like the bugs you find around flowers. Invertebrates are a huge interest of mine. I would be happy about someone giving me flowers, but I could quickly be distracted if an unusual beetle crawled out of one of them and would fetch one of my bug books to look it up.

Some very traditionally 'female' interests such as needlework. Also like technology and computer games, and history, sciences, psychology, languages, and other academic subjects.

Slightly puzzled by many men's extreme interest in sports. Even more puzzled by most women's extreme interest in fashion, makeup and beauty treatments. If I had to choose between spending the afternoon at a football match, or spending it indulging in girly gossip and pampering at a spa, I'd go to the football (at least there might be an entertaining punch-up or pitch invasion :lol: )



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02 Apr 2009, 5:20 pm

I definitely have some 'girl characteristics', but I've always been a tomboy and I tend to like guys better than I like girls. That ol' systemising brain, you know...



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03 Apr 2009, 9:28 pm

misswoofalot wrote:
I defo understand men alot more than nt females.

I "defo" do, too.



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06 Apr 2009, 12:41 pm

When I was younger, I dressed like a boy, and was often confused for one (my hair was short, too) but puberty put an end to that. I think the reason I was uncomfortable being feminine was because I've always had mostly male friends, and I was just trying to fit in with them.

I certainly couldn't fit in with the girls. Girls rely on more subtle interaction, and despite what you'd think, I found them far less tolerant of people who are "different". They form tight little groups. The boys were more straightforward, more accepting, and easier to understand.

Eventually I started to get crushes on the boys though, and then I realized that I needed to be more girly if I ever hoped to be found attractive by them in return. I wear skirts almost exclusively now, and you should see my bedroom, it's all lace and butterflies. The only thing I still can't force myself to do is wear high heels.


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06 Apr 2009, 12:58 pm

Philothea wrote:
I certainly couldn't fit in with the girls. Girls rely on more subtle interaction, and despite what you'd think, I found them far less tolerant of people who are "different". They form tight little groups. The boys were more straightforward, more accepting, and easier to understand.


One difference I notice about men and women is that if men think that someone would serve a useful practical function within the group, they'll generally be prepared to accept them into it, even if they think the person is a little odd. That isn't the case with women - to be accepted into a female group, you need to have the 'correct' social skills, to be able to say the 'correct' things and empathise in the 'correct' way.



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07 May 2009, 2:26 pm

I am not attracted to women, but my interests are more male. I like hunting and fishing and being outdoors. I dress my own deer and clean my own fish. I would rather hear about the details of an engine than about the latest fashion.



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07 May 2009, 2:57 pm

I feel more male than female. I'm even proud of my faint moustache.



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09 May 2009, 12:54 am

Yes, many times...

I remember when I was around 10-11 thinking that maybe I was actually a boy and my parents changed me to a girl via some sex operation...although I had lots of boyfriends I liked...Then in highschool I remember mentioning this to the one guy who truly understood me and he said to me, "but why would you feel that way, you are a very feminine girl..." which of course was weird to hear because I never saw myself that way...If I dress up then I feel very feminine and girly, but if I don't wear my makeup, dresses, etc...then I do feel like I'm really a guy...just very weird...



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09 May 2009, 3:21 am

Do you mean physically or mentally?

I feel like a girl who has a relatively (compared to most other girls) masculine brain. By that I mean I focus on and am interested in ideas, theoretical constructs, and the way things work (airplanes, different inventions, anything scientific) much more so than on interpersonal relationships and social or emotional things. As a kid I preferred playing with erector sets, K'nex, model rockets, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles action figures and Hot Wheels tracks but I did have a couple of girly toys like Polly Pocket. I'd say my testosterone level is on the higher end for females and I always liked aggressive sports and do feel enough aggression to match my male friends. Most of my friends have always been male, and as I'm also not very intuitively empathetic or nurturing by nature. However, I'm not butch, but nor am I very stereotypically feminine. I really do like being a girl, and I do like buying cute clothes and accessories to a degree, but I don't wear make-up or care about things like fashion or interior decorating at all because they're pointless and boring to me and I'd rather care about more substantial things.

I guess I'd say that, no, I don't physically feel like a man nor do I want to be, but mentally I feel pretty masculine compared to the average girl.



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09 May 2009, 7:49 am

I feel genderqueer. I have tried actively to be more female, knitting & studying Goddesses and stuff. When I was younger I thought perhaps I had a hormone imbalance.