has an evil NT ever taken advantage of you sexually?

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Erisad
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01 Sep 2010, 6:39 am

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And even if he doesn't, one is not exactly thinking straight in the middle of rape. As she stated, she was scared out of her mind. Even if he hadn't wanted her to bite, what might he have done if she did use her teeth?

The same thing happened to me with a guy I met at a party. After everyone was asleep, he pulled me into a stairway and forced me to give him oral sex. People always ask why I didn't bite. To be honest, it didn't even occur to me. I was paralyzed with shock and fear. He put one hand around my neck and the other on the back of my head so I couldn't get away. It was humiliating and terrifying, and I didn't talk about it for a year. I met his girlfriend the next day, and I wondered if he did the same things to her.


I'm sorry to hear that. I don't know what drives some guys to act this way. I say "guys" because if they treat women this way, they aren't "men." :(



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11 Sep 2010, 7:27 am

You might be interested in this website (and its blog):

http://www.lovefraud.com/

It details examples of more subtle, but equally terrifying abuse by psychopaths.



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12 Sep 2010, 12:06 pm

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If you want to avoid pain, be celibate until you are married. Yes, you will be a rarity and guys will try even harder to have sex with you but just don't do it. Make celibacy a religion for yourself. Sometimes the old-fashioned ideals are the best for some people. If you can't handle sex, stay away from it. Sexually active women are simply free prostitutes for men.
A relationship should come first and there should be NO sex until a mutual trust is established and the couple has experienced many things together first - this comes from long term dating without the sex. If a guy doesn't want to put the time in, then he just wants sex.
People who have histories of abuse seem to think that they MUST have sex to keep the guy around. Try this: Really shift your mind into being a guy for about a week. Convince yourself you are a guy. How do you see women? What kind of woman would you want? Don't you want a strong woman? A woman with a goal in life? A woman who says "NO" to your lust? BUT says "yes" to study, hard work, compassion, and achievement. Do you want to marry you? or Do you just want to bang you? Stop being a doormat and built your own ego instead of some guy's ego. No means no and rape is a punishable crime. Get the hell out of this rut you are in!! Watch your diet, exercise, learn to love or at least like yourself. Lift weights, make your body stronger. Keep your legs closed. Make intelligent choices and be mature enough to take the responsibility of mistakes. State what you want from people and give nothing until you GET what you want. Words and promises don't count.


I have to disagree there. Being mature and intelligent doesn't mean refusing to have sex for its own sake.

Hard work and study don't preclude you from having sex.

It's a normal part of being human. Not some sort of shameful, childish indulgence.


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12 Sep 2010, 4:25 pm

I was taken advantage of very young several times. Nothing big compared to what others experience. Some forced groping and inappropriate contact with...people who shouldn't ever have touched me. It frightened me so much though, I tended to avoid situations and people who might put me in that sort of situation again--because I knew I wouldn't be able to say no, regardless of how I much I wanted to.

The easy part was, I tended to avoid people enough or put out enough of a 'don't touch me' vibe (or was just that clueless/a b***h) that I rarely was asked out. When I did manage to get a guy to date me, it was usually because I asked him (maybe even pestered him like a typical little aspergirl freak who can't figure out the guy is supposed to do that part :oops: ). Then I'd ask...hey, why didn't you ask me out? The response was usually, "I thought you were with someone." As a consequence most of the people I've dated have been unsure of themselves--more like boys than men--because I knew that if I was in charge in the relationship, then I would never again be forced against my will. It means I've had a pretty safe and sheltered existence, but it also means that I've never had someone who could take care of me now and then, and I think we all need that safety net sometimes.

@Erisad: I'm angry that douchewand took such advantage of you...and what I'm about to say is for you AND all the others of us Aspergirls who have sacrificed themselves because they felt they couldn't say no--whatever their reason.

If you need the contact with someone, that's fine, but be aware of how your choice might effect your long term happiness and feelings of self-worth. You don't have to put up with repeated abuse because you think it's the only way to get that contact. It is wrong of the other to manipulate/trick/force you, but you need to recognize you own power and self-worth. You ARE worth more than that. You DO matter. Others will recognize that once you allow yourself to matter to you. You are worth more than the pain your sacrifice causes you. Don't allow those bastards into your life for that--to tear you down. You are beautiful and worthwhile just as you are.


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12 Sep 2010, 4:33 pm

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@Erisad: I'm angry that douchewand took such advantage of you...and what I'm about to say is for you AND all the others of us Aspergirls who have sacrificed themselves because they felt they couldn't say no--whatever their reason.

If you need the contact with someone, that's fine, but be aware of how your choice might effect your long term happiness and feelings of self-worth. You don't have to put up with repeated abuse because you think it's the only way to get that contact. It is wrong of the other to manipulate/trick/force you, but you need to recognize you own power and self-worth. You ARE worth more than that. You DO matter. Others will recognize that once you allow yourself to matter to you. You are worth more than the pain your sacrifice causes you. Don't allow those bastards into your life for that--to tear you down. You are beautiful and worthwhile just as you are.


Douchewand, I like that. :lol:

Seriously though, that's pretty much the only reason I went along with it as long as I did. I felt that was all I could get. I'm still rebuilding/remodeling myself at this point. Thanks for your words though. :)



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12 Sep 2010, 6:28 pm

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Douchewand, I like that. :lol:

Seriously though, that's pretty much the only reason I went along with it as long as I did. I felt that was all I could get. I'm still rebuilding/remodeling myself at this point. Thanks for your words though. :)


Good...I said it to make you smile. :D

Hey, I'm the queen of allowing myself to be taken advantage of because it feels like the only way I can connect. Thing is, I end up more damaged after the fun, more hurting, feeling even less worthy than I had before.

I have a guy who regularly texts me demanding oral. There was a time I would have, just to feel better about myself--to feel good for a few minutes. Then I realized that I would be just another hole. The way it felt the last time I let my husband touch me...like I was a warm hole and an object, not a living, feeling human with my own needs. And believe me, after being married for 22 years, this last year without any--well, let's just say douchewand's demands start to sound tempting. But that would make my tentative hold on sanity even more frayed. I'm not a hole. I'm a person. And what I need--intimacy above all--isn't going to be met by an obeyed command to give oral.

Sorry to be so blunt. Once upon a time I chose my words and topics with more of an eye to gentility and non-offensiveness. But I'm an old Aspergirl now, and trying hard to be authentic to myself without pretending to be someone people will "like" but never "know". I don't mean to be offensive...I'm still learning to be.


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12 Sep 2010, 6:41 pm

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Good...I said it to make you smile. :D

Hey, I'm the queen of allowing myself to be taken advantage of because it feels like the only way I can connect. Thing is, I end up more damaged after the fun, more hurting, feeling even less worthy than I had before.

I have a guy who regularly texts me demanding oral. There was a time I would have, just to feel better about myself--to feel good for a few minutes. Then I realized that I would be just another hole. The way it felt the last time I let my husband touch me...like I was a warm hole and an object, not a living, feeling human with my own needs. And believe me, after being married for 22 years, this last year without any--well, let's just say douchewand's demands start to sound tempting. But that would make my tentative hold on sanity even more frayed. I'm not a hole. I'm a person. And what I need--intimacy above all--isn't going to be met by an obeyed command to give oral.

Sorry to be so blunt. Once upon a time I chose my words and topics with more of an eye to gentility and non-offensiveness. But I'm an old Aspergirl now, and trying hard to be authentic to myself without pretending to be someone people will "like" but never "know". I don't mean to be offensive...I'm still learning to be.


That's okay. It's what I needed to hear. Luckily, the dude's car is getting inspected so he can't see me even if he wanted too. I know that won't be for long but long enough to keep him away for another week. :D