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29 Apr 2013, 10:19 am
29 Apr 2013, 11:47 am
blue_bean wrote:
Lucian wrote:
I feel like I want to post more but I find much of the discussion on these boards depressing and alienating.
The male persecution complex on here is truly pathetic, probably worse than any other forum I've been on. Naively I thought people with AS would be more likely to question social conventions re sex and gender, obviously this is not the case.
The idea that misandry is as prevalent or as damaging as misogyny (on here or anywhere else) would be laughable if it wasn't such a common thing to hear.
(not a woman btw - hope it's ok for me to post this here)
The male persecution complex on here is truly pathetic, probably worse than any other forum I've been on. Naively I thought people with AS would be more likely to question social conventions re sex and gender, obviously this is not the case.
The idea that misandry is as prevalent or as damaging as misogyny (on here or anywhere else) would be laughable if it wasn't such a common thing to hear.
(not a woman btw - hope it's ok for me to post this here)
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. And it's true, of all the places I post at online this is the only place where I see negativity towards women at all.
I only realised just lately how much the attitudes here have affected my willingness to date an aspie guy. I can't help but see misogyny/bitterness towards women (and even nice guy syndrome) as a common male AS co-morbid now. If he's one he's likely to be the other and vice versa.
Case in point.......
BlueMax wrote:
Why does it have to be one OR the other, not BOTH?
MXH wrote:
See the thing is I didn't even address an argument. And to be honest its likely cause I don't see there being one. Its just like racism, it needs to be classified as racist from every angle and possibility before we try and do something about it.
I swear to god, it's like talking to a wall sometimes.
We refute them and they respond by ignoring what we say and repeating back the same tired argument they already made.........
It's like saying a news program can't do a segment on the holocaust without also giving equal time to a holocaust denier. There are NOT two equal sides to every issue and pretending there are is just a distraction technique.
29 Apr 2013, 12:18 pm
Geekonychus wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
Lucian wrote:
I feel like I want to post more but I find much of the discussion on these boards depressing and alienating.
The male persecution complex on here is truly pathetic, probably worse than any other forum I've been on. Naively I thought people with AS would be more likely to question social conventions re sex and gender, obviously this is not the case.
The idea that misandry is as prevalent or as damaging as misogyny (on here or anywhere else) would be laughable if it wasn't such a common thing to hear.
(not a woman btw - hope it's ok for me to post this here)
The male persecution complex on here is truly pathetic, probably worse than any other forum I've been on. Naively I thought people with AS would be more likely to question social conventions re sex and gender, obviously this is not the case.
The idea that misandry is as prevalent or as damaging as misogyny (on here or anywhere else) would be laughable if it wasn't such a common thing to hear.
(not a woman btw - hope it's ok for me to post this here)
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. And it's true, of all the places I post at online this is the only place where I see negativity towards women at all.
I only realised just lately how much the attitudes here have affected my willingness to date an aspie guy. I can't help but see misogyny/bitterness towards women (and even nice guy syndrome) as a common male AS co-morbid now. If he's one he's likely to be the other and vice versa.
Case in point.......
BlueMax wrote:
Why does it have to be one OR the other, not BOTH?
MXH wrote:
See the thing is I didn't even address an argument. And to be honest its likely cause I don't see there being one. Its just like racism, it needs to be classified as racist from every angle and possibility before we try and do something about it.
I swear to god, it's like talking to a wall sometimes.
We refute them and they respond by ignoring what we say and repeating back the same tired argument they already made.........It's like saying a news program can't do a segment on the holocaust without also giving equal time to a holocaust denier. There are NOT two equal sides to every issue and pretending there are is just a distraction technique.
Nice. Collect your brownie points.
The problem with your holocaust example is it actually happened, thus giving time to the denier is foolish.
Misandry AND misogyny both happen here and elsewhere - to deny that is also foolishness.
29 Apr 2013, 12:33 pm
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15 Jul 2013, 2:11 pm
meems wrote:
It's not that being offended is unacceptable, it's that a lot of women have left the site because of it, and several have expressed that they feel uncomfortable posting. I made a thread about it in the Haven and there were several women who said they feel unwelcome, one woman even said every time she comes here she ends up feeling horrible about herself, the sexism toward women is a real problem for some members, and women also saying sexist things does not make the frequent sexist comments about women any less of a problem.
If I chose to report every sexist post I see to a moderator, I wouldn't have any time left to actually participate on the forum.
If I chose to report every sexist post I see to a moderator, I wouldn't have any time left to actually participate on the forum.
Heh. I left in 2010 because of the sexism. Nice to see it's still going.
Tyri0n wrote:
This is a really awesome point. I think NT women, like NT men, are mindless drones who respond mechanically to cultural incentives, so it makes little sense to blame them for doing what is merely natural and logical, for doing what everyone EXPECTS them to do, and also for trying to protect themselves from the creepy hypersexual/porn/rape culture on the other side. Rather, blame the culture that causes them to behave that way.
Two things would fix the problem: (1) start by executing or castrating all sex offenders (and make trials much quicker and easier for the prosecution too). (2) Make "slut shaming" a crime, even for juveniles; maybe call it "harassment" or "hate speech." Women would be friendlier and less cruel almost immediately because then they wouldn't have to worry about safety as much.
Two things would fix the problem: (1) start by executing or castrating all sex offenders (and make trials much quicker and easier for the prosecution too). (2) Make "slut shaming" a crime, even for juveniles; maybe call it "harassment" or "hate speech." Women would be friendlier and less cruel almost immediately because then they wouldn't have to worry about safety as much.
Many sexual assaults are a power trip so castration wouldn't help some offenders. Like your other points though.
http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest ... ing-maced/
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-cont ... sexuality/
