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19 Feb 2015, 8:11 pm

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You're right. I'm wrong. I'm sorry. I will try to be a better person; for I'm only a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess.
Cheer up, you're not terrible. Remember, I'm pulling for you. We're all in this together.
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19 Feb 2015, 9:04 pm

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You don't bother to educate yourself and prefer to wallow in your own self-righteousness, slyfox. That's why you don't understand what the issue is. Willful ignorance isn't something anybody can fix but yourself. I have no more to say on the topic. And, by the way, you are more than welcome that I spent so much of my valuable time looking up links to show you why feminism is needed. I didn't have to do that. I won't do it again.


clearly nothing I can say to make you happy or that you won't turn against me, so I'm going stop replying to you in this thread.

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I haven't done this, you seem to though o.O

you did that so you could try to make me feel bad for being a man for what is happening in places I don't live. so i don't see why I should thank you. If I'd asked for the links maybe. just as I wouldn't thank the man down the street for giving me info on german shepherds. starting to wonder if only way to make some feminist happy is for men to kill themselves. I really can't' fix that a woman gets paid less in alabama at a private held company, one if its happening they likely have went thru trouble to hid it so they don't get sued, I'm not a lawyer that can go sue and fight for women's pay. I'm a poor man who works at a college. not going both with this thread and likely just add any feminist in title thread to my ignore list just like with anything to mention god, christians, or atheists.



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20 Feb 2015, 1:00 am

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just asking as there are some companies who hire and pay women who aren't qualified to sit in an empty office just to meet a quota.


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11 Mar 2015, 1:44 am

Maybe I am one but don't know it yet and am in denial and use trolling as a tactic to hide my real identity! I still try to stick up for the men at times though! I troll MRAs as well but sadly my MRA bashing thread was removed! I am confused now! I am just a male survivor of domestic violence of an abusive female was tempted to go MGTOW many many times but refused because I still respect women and want to be with one I can trust again with some day! I am not sure where Ifall at but I do see women and men as equal and scowl at any radical side and troll them because they desearve it because they do not want equality I do!


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12 Mar 2015, 3:58 pm

Male feminists are generally hated by feminist women and are seen in suspicious light- I have read similar complaints from feminist women about "meninists" and "egalitarian man". They would probably trust a misogynist jerk more than a Male feminist because, in their eyes, the latter's genuineness will be way more questionable.

In nutshell: If you are a man and really have egalitarian views then the best thing to do is to avoid to adopt any of these labels, and avoid to actively engaging in any pro-feminism activities and debates; you might think they would appreciate it but they usually don't.
What usually happens is: The women involved will quickly associate you to a one or two bad experiences they had in life with self-proclaimed Male feminist (ie. "I knew a guy who claimed.....and turned out to be a player seeking for sex.....etc"), and once associated, even unfairly, it's hard to prove your genuineness; it's like a pre-accusation thrown at you - and any advice you would give, how little it is, would be seen as patronizing even if it wouldn't be seen as such if it came from another feminist woman.

So my advice, spare the headache,...... just distance yourself, keep your egalitarian values to yourself and simply apply them in your daily life (thro the way you treat your female family/friends/acquaintances/people...etc); and leave women's issues to women alone to solve; unless if it's one specific case related to your wife/daughter/mother/sister then in this case your active involvement would be seen as genuine and justified; otherwise don't bother.

And that includes threads on WP too, so I advice male members like Sly, Fnord, Otakue and all men who are active on this section to be way less active - umm, better to never post here even.

And oh, I am stopping here, before some female user gets upset and accuses me of populating a women's thread with more men's opinions.

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13 Mar 2015, 4:11 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Male feminists are generally hated by feminist women and are seen in suspicious light- I have read similar complaints from feminist women about "meninists" and "egalitarian man". They would probably trust a misogynist jerk more than a Male feminist because, in their eyes, the latter's genuineness will be way more questionable.

In nutshell: If you are a man and really have egalitarian views then the best thing to do is to avoid to adopt any of these labels, and avoid to actively engaging in any pro-feminism activities and debates; you might think they would appreciate it but they usually don't.
What usually happens is: The women involved will quickly associate you to a one or two bad experiences they had in life with self-proclaimed Male feminist (ie. "I knew a guy who claimed.....and turned out to be a player seeking for sex.....etc"), and once associated, even unfairly, it's hard to prove your genuineness; it's like a pre-accusation thrown at you - and any advice you would give, how little it is, would be seen as patronizing even if it wouldn't be seen as such if it came from another feminist woman.

So my advice, spare the headache,...... just distance yourself, keep your egalitarian values to yourself and simply apply them in your daily life (thro the way you treat your female family/friends/acquaintances/people...etc); and leave women's issues to women alone to solve; unless if it's one specific case related to your wife/daughter/mother/sister then in this case your active involvement would be seen as genuine and justified; otherwise don't bother.

And that includes threads on WP too, so I advice male members like Sly, Fnord, Otakue and all men who are active on this section to be way less active - umm, better to never post here even.

And oh, I am stopping here, before some female user gets upset and accuses me of populating a women's thread with more men's opinions.

/Out
Oh being a male feminist is pointless and leads to ridicule by both sides so whatsthe point of being a feminist as a man if it doesn't apply to you and is against you?Remember men do this and men do that and apparently all men are pigs and rapists and s**t! So if you are born male you are instantly going to be a rapist or sexist or some stupid bull s**t! Wheres the equality again?There is none its all a god damn lie women are all innocent and all men are evil that is it! Misandrism is funny and its okay to villify beat and abuse all men! Domestic violence against men is girl power!Men are all evil and should be castrated and euthanized! This kinda talk though regards radicalfeminism aka femnazism but most feminist are too chicken s**t and cowardly to speak against radical feminism or femnazism!


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13 Mar 2015, 4:41 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Male feminists are generally hated by feminist women and are seen in suspicious light- I have read similar complaints from feminist women about "meninists" and "egalitarian man". They would probably trust a misogynist jerk more than a Male feminist because, in their eyes, the latter's genuineness will be way more questionable.

In nutshell: If you are a man and really have egalitarian views then the best thing to do is to avoid to adopt any of these labels, and avoid to actively engaging in any pro-feminism activities and debates; you might think they would appreciate it but they usually don't.
What usually happens is: The women involved will quickly associate you to a one or two bad experiences they had in life with self-proclaimed Male feminist (ie. "I knew a guy who claimed.....and turned out to be a player seeking for sex.....etc"), and once associated, even unfairly, it's hard to prove your genuineness; it's like a pre-accusation thrown at you - and any advice you would give, how little it is, would be seen as patronizing even if it wouldn't be seen as such if it came from another feminist woman.

So my advice, spare the headache,...... just distance yourself, keep your egalitarian values to yourself and simply apply them in your daily life (thro the way you treat your female family/friends/acquaintances/people...etc); and leave women's issues to women alone to solve; unless if it's one specific case related to your wife/daughter/mother/sister then in this case your active involvement would be seen as genuine and justified; otherwise don't bother.

And that includes threads on WP too, so I advice male members like Sly, Fnord, Otakue and all men who are active on this section to be way less active - umm, better to never post here even.

And oh, I am stopping here, before some female user gets upset and accuses me of populating a women's thread with more men's opinions.

/Out
Oh being a male feminist is pointless and leads to ridicule by both sides so whatsthe point of being a feminist as a man if it doesn't apply to you and is against you?Remember men do this and men do that and apparently all men are pigs and rapists and s**t! So if you are born male you are instantly going to be a rapist or sexist or some stupid bull s**t! Wheres the equality again?There is none its all a god damn lie women are all innocent and all men are evil that is it! Misandrism is funny and its okay to villify beat and abuse all men! Domestic violence against men is girl power!Men are all evil and should be castrated and euthanized! This kinda talk though regards radicalfeminism aka femnazism but most feminist are too chicken s**t and cowardly to speak against radical feminism or femnazism!


I am so sorry that people have made you feel that way. I personally am extremely proud of my husband being a feminist, as I am of my male friends being feminists. I think the way some women and men treat male feminists is abhorrent. As for all men being pigs and rapists, that simply isn't true, and, while all men should be held accountable for their own actions, they should not be held accountable for the actions of other members of their sex. Men are not born sexist like some people are born with blue eyes; they are taught it by someone important in their lives, be it a mother, brother, aunt, or mentor. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a clear misunderstanding of biology. I think violence against all people is wrong; in fact, if any of my friends were to call violence against a man "girl power," I would have no problem telling them off and I would seriously question my friendship with them. I hope more feminists like me come out and say they feel the same way.



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14 Mar 2015, 1:12 am

Dione wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Male feminists are generally hated by feminist women and are seen in suspicious light- I have read similar complaints from feminist women about "meninists" and "egalitarian man". They would probably trust a misogynist jerk more than a Male feminist because, in their eyes, the latter's genuineness will be way more questionable.

In nutshell: If you are a man and really have egalitarian views then the best thing to do is to avoid to adopt any of these labels, and avoid to actively engaging in any pro-feminism activities and debates; you might think they would appreciate it but they usually don't.
What usually happens is: The women involved will quickly associate you to a one or two bad experiences they had in life with self-proclaimed Male feminist (ie. "I knew a guy who claimed.....and turned out to be a player seeking for sex.....etc"), and once associated, even unfairly, it's hard to prove your genuineness; it's like a pre-accusation thrown at you - and any advice you would give, how little it is, would be seen as patronizing even if it wouldn't be seen as such if it came from another feminist woman.

So my advice, spare the headache,...... just distance yourself, keep your egalitarian values to yourself and simply apply them in your daily life (thro the way you treat your female family/friends/acquaintances/people...etc); and leave women's issues to women alone to solve; unless if it's one specific case related to your wife/daughter/mother/sister then in this case your active involvement would be seen as genuine and justified; otherwise don't bother.

And that includes threads on WP too, so I advice male members like Sly, Fnord, Otakue and all men who are active on this section to be way less active - umm, better to never post here even.

And oh, I am stopping here, before some female user gets upset and accuses me of populating a women's thread with more men's opinions.

/Out
Oh being a male feminist is pointless and leads to ridicule by both sides so whatsthe point of being a feminist as a man if it doesn't apply to you and is against you?Remember men do this and men do that and apparently all men are pigs and rapists and s**t! So if you are born male you are instantly going to be a rapist or sexist or some stupid bull s**t! Wheres the equality again?There is none its all a god damn lie women are all innocent and all men are evil that is it! Misandrism is funny and its okay to villify beat and abuse all men! Domestic violence against men is girl power!Men are all evil and should be castrated and euthanized! This kinda talk though regards radicalfeminism aka femnazism but most feminist are too chicken s**t and cowardly to speak against radical feminism or femnazism!


I am so sorry that people have made you feel that way. I personally am extremely proud of my husband being a feminist, as I am of my male friends being feminists. I think the way some women and men treat male feminists is abhorrent. As for all men being pigs and rapists, that simply isn't true, and, while all men should be held accountable for their own actions, they should not be held accountable for the actions of other members of their sex. Men are not born sexist like some people are born with blue eyes; they are taught it by someone important in their lives, be it a mother, brother, aunt, or mentor. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a clear misunderstanding of biology. I think violence against all people is wrong; in fact, if any of my friends were to call violence against a man "girl power," I would have no problem telling them off and I would seriously question my friendship with them. I hope more feminists like me come out and say they feel the same way.
Thank you someone who gets it! Sorry for the rant but I needed to get it off my chest. I may not be really a feminist or MRA but I do know one thing I want equality, I want to live in a society where men and women aren't judged, a society where a woman can feel safe at night and not be in danger and also a society where too much burden isn't put on either gender, a society where there is no domestic violence and there is no discrimination. A society where gays bis lesbians transexuals and transgenders aren't discriminated against a society where people on the spectrum and those with other disorders aren't discriminated against or bullied same for those handicapped. Also a society where open marriages and poly relationships are not taboo perhaps legalized poly and group marriages! Last but not least legalized marijuana and no racism exists either. That is probably a little too much to ask for but as a egalitarian humanist I sure hope it is possible.


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15 Mar 2015, 7:59 pm

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You get it off your chest about 3 times a day.


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You get it off your chest about 3 times a day.
You got a dirty mind teehee! :wink:


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I needed to get it off my chest.


You get it off your chest about 3 times a day.
You got a dirty mind teehee! :wink:


NO U :P


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16 Mar 2015, 2:40 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
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I needed to get it off my chest.


You get it off your chest about 3 times a day.
You got a dirty mind teehee! :wink:


NO U :P
Gahh dammit but you do too how else did you know I fapped 3times a day?Gah! Any who I am finally moving on for a while thanks for the laugh I hope I brought other people laughs at the same time addressing serious issues both genders face and pointing out both men and women face s**t and neither gender should be ignored! Equality for everyone end abuse and rape for both men and women and live in harmony we are all human!End the hate end the destruction of the planet stop hating each other and work together I beg of you!Protect the environment and endangered species also love each-other not hate and judge each other based on race or gender we need to help each-other out and make the world a better place!


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Make Love, Not War! :flower:


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12 Aug 2015, 4:22 am

I really disagree with this new wave of liberal "me-me and my choices" feminism. I am more of a radical 70's feminist.



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Does being ashamed of being born ashamed of being a heterosexual male and hating his own sex of qualify as a male feminist?


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