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10 Sep 2015, 7:36 am

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yeah really, so many terrible mysognists on this forum, while we just keep on banning that psychopatic man hater. :roll:

I+ve never seen a man open 40 accounts just to bash women.


Let's hope we never do see that, Booyakasha. It's appalling behaviour, whoever does it. Though perhaps it's overkill to generalise from a single case. I'm surprised that WP has no kind of techie alarm system to stop abuse like that of the site. However I am technically ignorant in such matters, and it may not be possible.


No, and unfortunately IP banning is out of the question since her IP changes all the time, and only thing we can do is to ban her over and over again, and clean after her and her trolish posts.



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10 Sep 2015, 7:41 am

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No, and unfortunately IP banning is out of the question since her IP changes all the time, and only thing we can do is to ban her over and over again, and clean after her and her trolish posts.


It's like playing wack a mole right? :mrgreen:



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10 Sep 2015, 7:42 am

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I+ve never seen a man open 40 accounts just to bash women.


They wouldn't need to, as they wouldn't be banned in the first place. WP is incredibly tolerant of guys who talk about women as if we're all insane, or evil, or objects to acquire, or all three. Something about letting people be stupid, I read somewhere. Cornflake himself, a moderator, once called me "princess" in a sarcastic, demeaning way.


Well WP is also very tolerant, apparently, as can be seen from this thread, of people calling others "terrible mysogynists" which is a gross personal attack of the vast number of the male population here. This thread isn't really in accordance with the rules, yet it stands.

What about that?


It's not a 'personal attack' if no specific members are singled out. It's attacking the ideas/beliefs littered throughout the sub-forums. So the thread is in accordance with the rules.



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10 Sep 2015, 8:02 am

I happen to have a great regard for women.

I don't feel WP is a hotbed for misogynists.

There are bitter guys on this Forum, though.



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10 Sep 2015, 8:16 am

Inle wrote:
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I+ve never seen a man open 40 accounts just to bash women.


They wouldn't need to, as they wouldn't be banned in the first place. WP is incredibly tolerant of guys who talk about women as if we're all insane, or evil, or objects to acquire, or all three. Something about letting people be stupid, I read somewhere. Cornflake himself, a moderator, once called me "princess" in a sarcastic, demeaning way.


Well WP is also very tolerant, apparently, as can be seen from this thread, of people calling others "terrible mysogynists" which is a gross personal attack of the vast number of the male population here. This thread isn't really in accordance with the rules, yet it stands.

What about that?


It's not a 'personal attack' if no specific members are singled out. It's attacking the ideas/beliefs littered throughout the sub-forums. So the thread is in accordance with the rules.


No - any behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members is against the rules, and here we have a whole thread designed for that purpose.

I wonder how long would stand a thread by the name of "So many terrible man haters on theis forum". An hour, 15 min perhaps? Before it would get reported.



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10 Sep 2015, 9:00 am

With the exception of a few bitterly and sexually frustrated guys in their early 20's, who had bigger issues than Asperger's, ALL of the ASD guys I've known have been remarkably egalitarian. Downright feministic. With the exception of a couple of rabid man-haters, my dad was a bigger feminist than most women I've known. He was disgusted and appalled by my antifeminism, went to his grave wondering how he "managed to raise a daughter with such a complete lack of self-respect."

We can get into the discussion of WHY I've become a snarling antifeminist somewhere else. Feminism just doesn't seem realistic or kind to me. I'm all for suffrage and not a real big fan of coverture; after that, feminism is no better than racism or ableism or that MGTOW/PUA s**t. An ill wind that blows no one any good. I'm for peopleism.

My grandfather was also pretty feministic for his day (considering that he was born in 1921). Having an Italian wife and two daughters will do that for a guy (even a guy that had an abusive mother and was deserted by his first wife).

I'd say the misogyny comes from two factors:

1) Being bitterly rejected by a lot of shallow young alpha women. Some of whom will, I quite well imagine, have to eat their comeuppance in spades in the next decade. That studly, athletic King of the Party Scene looks great when you're 23. Not so hot when you're 32 and have two or three kids to feed, house, clothe, and care for and he still wants to party.

I once knew a lot of beta girls with the same complex about guys. They only wanted the "best ones," the alphas and social kings. Too bad the alpha guys/girls and social kings/queens are usually shallow, immature f**ktards until they hit about 30.

2) Mostly experiencing women through being rejected by the alphas and what is visible online and in the media. I don't see too many "Plain Jane" blogs to go along with the Facebook Fantasies. I don't see to many "Joe Next Door" blogs to go along with Matt Forney or RoK.

Meanwhile IRL I know a lot of Plain Janes and Joe Next Doors. Decent folk, who are never going to reach "trending" status on Twitter (and don't want to).


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10 Sep 2015, 9:14 am

Yeah...I'm a Don next door :P



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10 Sep 2015, 9:33 am

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how on earth do you request that a man just uses the leg room available for his seat and not invade your space, without it becoming a very awkward conversation...

"Sorry, can please I sit here?" He'd then wonder why you're asking and notice that he's taking up the space from the seat, and move his legs closer together. That's not awkward is it?


Thank you for providing this simple suggestion, but I did not ask a question about how to ask for a seat.
I meant when you are already seated and some guys legs touch yours because he 'needs' more space for his family jewels. I have asked directly in the past for them to move their leg over, and that worked until he shifted his position and his leg was against mine again.

But this is still the jungle, so there is nothing I can do about it, even if I hate other people touching off me needlessly.

Anyways like I said earlier,

The younger chaps who are misogynistic don't have a space to discuss their issues, so it all comes out in L&D, and because the context is Love and Dating it becomes a battle ground with people telling them how wrong they are, and how they will never find love or get a date with that attitude. This will continue until they have a specific section where they can rant as much as they want about how horrid all women are. Perhaps then L&D might actually be a place where ASD people can genuinely discuss relationship issues.



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10 Sep 2015, 9:37 am

Then ask again?



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10 Sep 2015, 9:42 am

I think a polite expression--verbal or otherwise--of disapproval would work for most guys.

If that doesn't work, then I might get less polite--though always maintaining a lady-like demeanor.



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10 Sep 2015, 9:51 am

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Then ask again?

Lol, you have so many simple suggestions lined up!

@Kraftie, yeah Ive done that too, it still happens though, and I become even more anxious because I tried to get it to stop before but it didnt work, so why would it work now type of thing... and the thought process spins off into all possible scenarios. Its one of the reasons I don't use public transport.



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10 Sep 2015, 9:54 am

To tell you the truth, if there was parking where I work, I'd drive in every day!



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10 Sep 2015, 10:01 am

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Then ask again?

Lol, you have so many simple suggestions lined up!

Because most the people you meet will not purposely try to do something to annoy you. They genuinely may not notice they're touching your leg. In that case it would be as simple as asking.



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10 Sep 2015, 10:10 am

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Are Aspies more likely to be misogynists than NTs? Or is this just how men really think? Makes me never want to speak to any ever again. :(

I can only speak for myself, but I like women way more than men, and they like me. Maybe some of these guys turn all people off, but they only notice it with women. And maybe their only means of socializing is through the internet, which could hardly be considered healthy. :? I don't get it, but a few of these guys do seem to be misogynists of the first order.


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10 Sep 2015, 2:06 pm

Booyakasha wrote:
Inle wrote:
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I+ve never seen a man open 40 accounts just to bash women.


They wouldn't need to, as they wouldn't be banned in the first place. WP is incredibly tolerant of guys who talk about women as if we're all insane, or evil, or objects to acquire, or all three. Something about letting people be stupid, I read somewhere. Cornflake himself, a moderator, once called me "princess" in a sarcastic, demeaning way.


Well WP is also very tolerant, apparently, as can be seen from this thread, of people calling others "terrible mysogynists" which is a gross personal attack of the vast number of the male population here. This thread isn't really in accordance with the rules, yet it stands.

What about that?


It's not a 'personal attack' if no specific members are singled out. It's attacking the ideas/beliefs littered throughout the sub-forums. So the thread is in accordance with the rules.


No - any behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members is against the rules, and here we have a whole thread designed for that purpose.

I wonder how long would stand a thread by the name of "So many terrible man haters on theis forum". An hour, 15 min perhaps? Before it would get reported.


It's not intended to provoke or belittle other members, just the behaviour of some of them, which is not against the rules. If you don't consider yourself to be misogynistic, it really shouldn't be a problem.



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10 Sep 2015, 2:47 pm

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Manspreading bugs me, as do bags on seats etc.

A bag can be removed upon request, it is a commonly accepted courtesy and one often written on signs on public transport, how on earth do you request that a man just uses the leg room available for his seat and not invade your space, without it becoming a very awkward conversation... And nooo I do not want to see reproductive organs popping out of anywhere publically.


I usually avoid asking anyone to make room for me. What's more, I avoid sitting next to anyone; especially women, because I'm never sure any kind of proximity to them isn't a way of being a pervert.

I've had enough experiences of someone being mean to me, always with an attitude suggesting I have it coming, and much more, and I'm never sure I don't---in fact, retrospectively, now I know I certainly did in most cases I remember. I've never managed to stand up for myself; rather, they just naturally show they are the ones in a position to judge me, and I am the one at fault, for my weakness if not for anything else. Complaining seems pointless, as I'm not telling them anything new or interesting. I've learned to expect humiliating answers to remind me my place, boiling down to, "Of course I'm being mean to you. Are you so stupid you haven't yet realized I have no respect for you? If you want respect, have the balls to physically fight me, and prove you're stronger than me. You don't have the balls because you know I'd beat the crap out of you and humiliate you even more. Sucks to be you."


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