Ladies: What's up with creepy men?
sinsboldly
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*Sigh*....I hear this statement and variations of it ALL THE TIME from women. I'm sure there are probably millions of women in this world who would concur with you and "creepy guy stories" are a pastime of women; especially when they are all in a group and go on man-bashing escapades. I think its pretty clear to me that women use the word creepy to describe men they find Actively Unattractive. But its always the same old story; a guy approaches them who they dont happen to fancy and is persistent despite the fact that they are trying(albeit in vain)to send nonverbal cues that they arent interested. It pisses me off who women in this thread define creepy based on SPECIFIC examples when it is obviously a general characteristic which applies to many people depending on who is applying the term.
Ok I'll try and make it very clear to me a creepy guys is one that their chases you and in runs after you and scares the crap out of you, touches you out of nowere or you clearly tell NO and won't stop bugging you. To me anyway thats creepy.
Well thats reasonable CRD, but many NT women call guys they find actively unattractive "creepy" and use the term fall too liberally IMO. Padium: I dont know what the odds are for someone to be bipolar but I DO know that bipolar, unlike AS, is EQUALLY common in both sexes though it affects women differently than it effects men. But what I hear from women about sex STRONGLY correlates to their age(range): Young women complain that all men want is sex whereas slightly older men complain both about difficulty getting an organism AND about how hard it is to find a man who's good in bed.
People get better with things because they practice! Men or women who don't practice having good sex are not going to be good at it until they do practice. Someone that is good in bed is someone that knows they are responsible for their own organisms (sic) .
If you went bowling with someone, you wouldn't rely of them getting your strikes for you, would you? If you were in a class you have to do your own work to make your grade. Why do people think that having sex relieves them from any responsibility for knowing how to have their own orgasms? You have to know your body, you have to be able to help and know what does it for you and what doesn't. You can't blame it on anyone else, especially if you haven't put in the time and effort it takes to be 'good in bed' yourself!
so when you recount stories of 'women you know' that are always male bashing, remember this from some other 'woman you know' . We are responsible for our own orgasms.
Merle
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Well thats reasonable CRD, but many NT women call guys they find actively unattractive "creepy" and use the term fall too liberally IMO. Padium: I dont know what the odds are for someone to be bipolar but I DO know that bipolar, unlike AS, is EQUALLY common in both sexes though it affects women differently than it effects men. But what I hear from women about sex STRONGLY correlates to their age(range): Young women complain that all men want is sex whereas slightly older men complain both about difficulty getting an organism AND about how hard it is to find a man who's good in bed.
Ok let me try again.... Being a WOMAN and as far as I know or care to know NT also I don't live under a rock and interact with other women all the time. I don't know any women over the age of 15 that call a guy creepy just for not being "cute" maybe they stare at them or stand outside the girls lockerroom at the gym trying to see in. That and things like that is what will get you all creepy by a woman thats not just a plain old witch and who would want to date a mean woman anyway.
Also to adress some other posts on this thread moaning the lack of women willing to give it up. First nothing is stopping you from dealing with your own needs. Second nobody should have sex with someone who thay don't want to, sorry you wouldn't want to give it up to some radom guy because he thinks your cute why should women have to give it to you because you think they're cute. Also there are women who are willing to have sex for money or because they enjoy radom encounters if thats all your looking for I'm sure you'll beable to find it somewere on the internet or the phonebook if you live some where it's leagal.
I define creepy as someone who is at least 10 to 20 years older than me, stares me up and down in an obviously sexual way, then keeps looking/following when I clearly look away or start walking away.
I doubt it would be someone like you Cyberman, and for the record I don't mind talking to older men at all and even some who are checking me out I just don't pay any attention, but the ones who keep staring at you with a smirk on their face when they clearly know they're creeping you out - those are the ones that are creepy.
Yes, this does happen on occasion. Not too much though - a lot lot of guys check me out, and I just ignore it and let them go about their business - I don't mind that because that's just how guys are.
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I have never called someone creepy or thought him creepy just because I was unattracted to him yet he persisted in hitting on me. I have always found that merely annoying. For me to think of someone as "creepy" he has to actively make me nervous, pose some sort of vague threat that puts my alerts up. There have been a few stories in this thread of situations that would definately put my alerts up. Early in the thread is a story about a creep saying to the poster "I want to be a dog and have you put a leash on me..." and other things of that nature. That is creepy. That goes beyonf mere hitting on a woman who isn't attracted to you and has escalated into threatening but in such a vague way that the woman just shivers and thinks "creepy" rather than reaching for the mace.
"Creep" doesn't mean unnatttractive guy hitting on me. It means guy who presents a threat but that threat is so vague that I'm at yellow alert rather than red alert. This sounds similar to other women posting. There is a difference between the guy who innocently hits on you even though you aren't ineterested and the guy who keeps on doing it in a vaguely threatening way and with a smirk onhis face even as you are visibly uncomfortable.
"Creep" doesn't mean unnatttractive guy hitting on me. It means guy who presents a threat but that threat is so vague that I'm at yellow alert rather than red alert. This sounds similar to other women posting. There is a difference between the guy who innocently hits on you even though you aren't ineterested and the guy who keeps on doing it in a vaguely threatening way and with a smirk onhis face even as you are visibly uncomfortable.
That sounds totally reasonable Janissy. But most NT women have a much broader definition of "creepy"; THAT is what Ive been trying to get across. To the average woman a man who she is not attracted to who persists in hitting on her certainly IS creepy.
If a man is very persistent when a woman doesn't want him to be, that is creepy. And if a woman isn't happy with a behaviour, she's entitled to say so.
And if you're annoyed when women find some men's behaviour creepy, you're welcome to go start your own thread in the mens section where you may vent to your heart's content.
And if you're annoyed when women find some men's behaviour creepy, you're welcome to go start your own thread in the mens section where you may vent to your heart's content.
Um, there is NO mens section here on WP thank you.....What annoys me is NT women's overuse of the word creepy and how its used against men they personally happen not to like.
Since when are people (officially)allowed to invent their own language? I see nothing in the adult section about this. Men generally dont feel threatened by a woman in our presence who we dont find unattractive UNLESS she really goes out of her way to bother us. I have a right to state my opinion even though you and others may disagree. Having been called "creepy" when I was clearly not hitting on the person in question or presenting any credible threat, you cant expect me to be sympathetic to women regarding their rants about "creepy guys".
So nobody can ever touch on this subject without you running in here? Look, you are taking this thread way too personally.
I don't ask you to be sympathetic, but the ladies here that want to discuss their experiences are not talking about you and are not directly responsible for whatever has happened in your life. You are not compelled to read this thread, so if this upsets you that much- leave.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts101191-start15.html
I don't ask you to be sympathetic, but the ladies here that want to discuss their experiences are not talking about you and are not directly responsible for whatever has happened in your life. You are not compelled to read this thread, so if this upsets you that much- leave.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts101191-start15.html
Thankyou Activebutodd.
sinsboldly
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And if you're annoyed when women find some men's behaviour creepy, you're welcome to go start your own thread in the mens section where you may vent to your heart's content.
Um, there is NO mens section here on WP thank you.....What annoys me is NT women's overuse of the word creepy and how its used against men they personally happen not to like.
The 'men's room was changed into the InDepth Adult discussion and the Men's Forum is a thread in there, now. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt101191.html If you want to contribute, post away, dude.
Merle
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I am yet to have an overly creepy encounter in person, or if I have I was oblivious to it, as I tend not to leave the house much. I did have a really creepy incident online not to long ago. I was talking to someone I thought was a friend, and the conversations got more and more sexual in nature, until it was obvious he was more interested in my virginity than anything else. I blocked him on all my accounts right after I realized it. Thankfully he hasn't tried more than once to get in contact with me again.
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