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08 Jan 2008, 4:56 pm

well i live with my wife, but i have been with men but they are not as interesting as women, i am more of a bloke in a womans body than a lesbian really but well who knows lmao, i usually just call myself the worlds greatest drag queen because i got a womans body too lmao



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09 Jan 2008, 10:57 am

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i am more of a bloke in a womans body


I often feel the same way. And my boyfriend says he thinks of me as a man :roll:



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10 Jan 2008, 1:08 pm

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I'm bi, and in a relationship with a pretty boy who has long hair <3 I love long hair =)

So am I - well he's being odd right now but he's still pretty with long hair and looks like Eddie Vedder did in the 90s :D
I'm bi with a preference for men.


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13 Jan 2008, 1:59 am

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I think coming out or identifying as bisexual is more of an Aspie/autistic thing. I know a lot of lesbians that refuse to identify as bisexual, though they privately will admit that's how they are. I know so-called straight women that are bisexual that refuse to acknowledge it. One reason I didn't really stick with women is that lesbians seemed hyper-NT. I didn't know about autism or Asperger's so, of course I didn't have this term back then. It just seemed that lesbians and gay men had this "code" that I couldn't for the life of me figure out. It didn't matter if I felt the same way, I didn't speak their language. And the community overall seemed very exclusive and rigid. I get along better with men and find them attractive enough, so that's what I've settled with. :)
After watching my son and his special needs friends, I've further reinforced my idea that sexual orientation (picking one or the other) these days is determined almost entirely through social conditioning. I'm one of those who believe most of us are bisexual by nature.


I also found the "lesbian/gay world" to be much more difficult to socialize in than the straight. So difficult in fact that I really tried to renounce homosexuality altogether (didn't work, I am most definitely lesbian). The few friendships that I have been able to maintain in adulthood are with straight men. But I don't agree that sexual orientation is effected much by social conditioning, friends and family can influence values and promiscuity, but the fact that homosexuals exist at all is proof that it's not conditioning, otherwise we would all be straight. It's much more hardwired then that, otherwise it would be quite easy to change one's orientation. It all can seem fluid until you actually try to change---most people never try. Sexual behavior and physical attraction is not orientation. Orientation regards who you bond with emotionally, who you fall in love with, who fulfills you, who you want to live with and grow old with. It is about the relationship. Sex is a very small part of it. The truth is everyone is omni-sexual, you can "get off" on anything or anyone if you really want to. And so what. It's intimacy and love that give life meaning, not mere physical pleasure, although its nice to have that too in the context of a healthy relationship.
cheers to your comment! :D I always suspect theres more to a relationship than sex, but it seems like the guys i've been with in the past always seem to make it that way.



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13 Jan 2008, 7:21 am

I am 27 but I have never really been sure of my sexuality. I have "dated" a couple of guys when I was younger but never loved them I think i just went out with them because it seemed like the thing to do at the time. I thought I was A sexual as I never found guys cute or whatever at svhool but recently having seen a female porn video someone sent me and reading about lesbian sex stories in Cleo I think I may be lesbian I am not sure though. It is kinda confusing for me being an aspie makes it even tougher.



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15 Jan 2008, 7:15 am

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I am 27 but I have never really been sure of my sexuality. I have "dated" a couple of guys when I was younger but never loved them I think i just went out with them because it seemed like the thing to do at the time. I thought I was A sexual as I never found guys cute or whatever at svhool but recently having seen a female porn video someone sent me and reading about lesbian sex stories in Cleo I think I may be lesbian I am not sure though. It is kinda confusing for me being an aspie makes it even tougher.


any advice would be appreciated.



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15 Jan 2008, 9:55 am

KimJ wrote:
I think coming out or identifying as bisexual is more of an Aspie/autistic thing. I know a lot of lesbians that refuse to identify as bisexual, though they privately will admit that's how they are. I know so-called straight women that are bisexual that refuse to acknowledge it. One reason I didn't really stick with women is that lesbians seemed hyper-NT. I didn't know about autism or Asperger's so, of course I didn't have this term back then. It just seemed that lesbians and gay men had this "code" that I couldn't for the life of me figure out. It didn't matter if I felt the same way, I didn't speak their language. And the community overall seemed very exclusive and rigid. I get along better with men and find them attractive enough, so that's what I've settled with. :)
After watching my son and his special needs friends, I've further reinforced my idea that sexual orientation (picking one or the other) these days is determined almost entirely through social conditioning. I'm one of those who believe most of us are bisexual by nature.


I don't think it's social conditioning at all. My brother was obviously gay from the time he was a baby. I knew it long before he did only because I'm so much older. He had to reach puberty and muddle through all the social stupidity before he finally felt okay with saying he was attracted to men. I told him I knew since he was a baby. I never once saw him act like he might be hetero. All of the kids in school obviously knew it too (although they couldn't "name" why they thought he was different until they got older) and they tormented him as a result. To say he chose all of that from the time of infancy is a big stretch and not one I'll ever believe. I've seen plenty of people I knew were gay or bi from childhood. They've also found brain differences and I suspect they will find genetic differences over time.

For me, I don't find the female body all that interesting and not at all sexually appealing. It doesn't bother me at all if another woman does. It doesn't bother me what society thinks I should or shouldn't feel. I don't care what society thinks about it at all, only myself. They don't sleep with me so they get no say. The idea of lesbianism or bisexualism doesn't bother me, but it also doesn't interest me sexually. And for me, the sexual attraction has to be there or no relationship will happen. I can like someone, but that will be it if I'm not attracted to them. I never "become" attracted to people because I get to know them and like them. For me, those are completely separate.

Males appeal to me. I like the way they look and I like that they are completely different than I am. I would never be with one otherwise.

Now when it comes to living with someone, it would have to be a male. I could never live with a female. I have a hard enough time relating to them and getting along with them in general. I have no use for the emotion, drama and continuous trying to change people that comes with most females. That includes my best friend who is almost certainly Aspie as well as bisexual. She gets on my last nerve in under a week and I have a driving need to go home to my husband so I can relax and be myself.

I guess I don't find it appealing on any level. I always did find it weird because intellectually it doesn't bother me at all. Between that and my brother, I always knew it was just the way you were made.


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18 Jan 2008, 6:29 am

I think people kinda have an idea or at least a suspision and with aspies it might take longer to work it out or question it. I do remem ber questioning as a teen I have had a couple of Bfs but neither of them I loved just liked all we did was kiss and that didn't feel nice to me.



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18 Jan 2008, 2:10 pm

I have had a few relationships with men in the past but have been in a relationship with a woman for the past 9 years.



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27 Jan 2008, 1:49 pm

I'm gay, I knew from around the age of 12 (although I didn't know what the word gay meant - I knew I had a crush on my female friend). I thought it might have been a one-off, but that interest lasted eight years (yes, really), during which time I only found other women attractive.

I've attempted dating a few men, with predictable results, i.e., no chemistry, no emotional connection.

I don't particulary care for the reason(s) I'm gay: you might as well ask why I have brown eyes - it's simply there.



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27 Jan 2008, 3:07 pm

Barcode wrote:

I don't particulary care for the reason(s) I'm gay: you might as well ask why I have brown eyes - it's simply there.


Same here! I just prefer women and I hate being asked to justify why. Sure I do like some guys as friends, some I enjoy being around to talk about stuff. But I have zero physical attraction to the male species. They're just not sexy to me and I don't like being touched by them. Yet women I find attractive though I don't always like being touched by even them. Let me put it this way--I never notice any guy's bodies. But I can tell you my psychologist --well she has a very nice a$$. I noticed that last week. :wink: Its just the way I am.



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27 Jan 2008, 3:20 pm

[chortling at the psychologist comment].

I hear you on the being asked to justify why: For all I know, there might be life-experiences, genetic reasons, or likely, a combination of both. I don't really care, I can honestly say (and I realize I'm fortunate to be able to) that being gay has never been a significant issue, i.e., coming out, work-wise etc.

I can appreciate why others might find a certain man attractive - but it's just not happening for me. On the other hand, I notice women frequently - now, if only they would notice me :)



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27 Jan 2008, 5:39 pm

Barcode wrote:
[chortling at the psychologist comment].

I hear you on the being asked to justify why: For all I know, there might be life-experiences, genetic reasons, or likely, a combination of both. I don't really care, I can honestly say (and I realize I'm fortunate to be able to) that being gay has never been a significant issue, i.e., coming out, work-wise etc.

I can appreciate why others might find a certain man attractive - but it's just not happening for me. On the other hand, I notice women frequently - now, if only they would notice me :)


Yes I wish more women would notice me. But even the butch dykes don't notice me, but I am not attracted to the butches anyway. I'm just saying its only happened a couple times in my life that a woman has flirted with me which I find disappointing. Men on the other hard won't leave me alone.

Yes and my psychologist-- I'm so glad they picked a hottie for me. She remarked I don't seem happy...little did she know the grin on my face when she walked over to her computer and I saw her profile. Ah ...yes... the superbly shaped behind in nicely tailored black trousers, hint of a panty line... Uhh... I'm getting myself excited now! I can't wait till my next session.



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29 Jan 2008, 9:51 pm

Ticker wrote:

... I just prefer women ..... Sure I do like some guys as friends, some I enjoy being around to talk about stuff. But I have zero physical attraction to the male species. They're just not sexy to me and I don't like being touched by them. Yet women I find attractive .... Let me put it this way--I never notice any guy's bodies. But I can tell you my psychologist --well she has a very nice a$$. I noticed that last week. :wink: Its just the way I am.


I'm a "mature" woman - I can't bring myself to say how old I am though it might be in my profile. But anyway I look much younger than I am. I suppose you all will think that all older women think that about themselves, ha ha! I posted a little picture somewhere in the picture thread though if you want to decide for yourself.

Pretty much everything that I left in Ticker's quote above is true for me. I had a crush on a guy once in high school but other than him I almost never have any attraction to men. All my romantic relationships have been with women. Once in a while a GQ looking guy comes along at the coffee shop I hang out at - I think he might be gay but he is cute. When my one close male friend hugs me I hate the bristly beard shadow hairs of his face on my cheek - they are soooo rough - UGH!

I have several very close women friends now but have not had a romantic thing for about 10 years.


I dress so femme that I doubt lesbian women would guess I am gay. I don't use any of the tell-tale signals - piercings, hair style, none of it.

Mostly though I am just not a sexual person. Sex has never worked out very well for me and I no longer really care much about it. However romance, affection, sweetness - those things I really love. But like Ticker said, I do not seem to meet any women who are (a) interested in me and (b) gay and (c) spark my interest. I am definitely picky and that's a big part of it. I like Femme women and the ones I like are usually straight.



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03 Feb 2008, 6:04 am

i'm bisexual



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04 Feb 2008, 5:01 pm

I think I am bisexual (I'm reaching the end of the questioning sexuality phase).