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23 Sep 2010, 2:02 am

Well all I have to say about this is, no sh!t.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... th-related

And this isn't a "big bad man" thing by the way. It's simply an inherited bias of society which is perpetuated by men and women.



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23 Sep 2010, 3:15 am

Hopefully, that will all change in 20 years.


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25 Sep 2010, 5:00 pm

it is traditionally a problem between men and women at the same job, but it is also a problem between men and women at comparable yet different jobs. society tends to devalue traditionally female jobs like daycare worker, cashier or housekeeper. but men's jobs that require similar skill levels and education tend to pay better, like cooks, custodians or construction workers.

in my job for the canadian government, our wages have been inflated because we work in a female-dominated position.

it had been noticed that male-dominated jobs that required the same level of experience and education had a higher pay scale in the public service commission than comparable female-dominated jobs, so the answer was to artificially increase our pay. so everyone in the job (including men) are now on a higher pay scale to improve the situation.


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25 Sep 2010, 7:35 pm

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As a younger attorney, the lawyer had been Susan; now he was Thomas. He told Schilt that after he transitioned from female to male, another lawyer mistakenly believed that Susan had been fired and replaced by Thomas. The other lawyer commended the firm's boss for the replacement. He said Susan had been incompetent; "the new guy," he added, was "just delightful."


:idea:

I should become an FTM right here right now. I won't make a convincing male, but then again I've never exactly been a convincing female either.



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25 Sep 2010, 7:41 pm

menintights wrote:
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As a younger attorney, the lawyer had been Susan; now he was Thomas. He told Schilt that after he transitioned from female to male, another lawyer mistakenly believed that Susan had been fired and replaced by Thomas. The other lawyer commended the firm's boss for the replacement. He said Susan had been incompetent; "the new guy," he added, was "just delightful."


:idea:

I should become an FTM right here right now. I won't make a convincing male, but then again I've never been a convincing female either.

seconded.


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25 Sep 2010, 9:54 pm

I took over from my boss, who was fired due to lying, stealing, yelling at people, running his own business on the side during work hours etc. I get compliments all the time from people saying how much better everything is running, etc.

I am still $30k short of what he was getting paid, despite being more qualified. I have no doubt that if I was a guy, and assertive\outgoing etc. I would be on the same pay.



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25 Sep 2010, 10:05 pm

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How to Tell a Businessman from a Businesswoman

A businessman is aggressive; a businesswoman is pushy.
He is careful about details; she is picky.
He loses his temper because he’s so involved in his job; she’s bitchy.
He’s depressed (or hungover), so everyone tiptoes past his office; she’s moody, so it must be her time of the month.
He follows through; she doesn’t know how to quit.
He’s firm; she’s stubborn.
He makes wise judgments; she reveals her prejudices.
He is a man of the world; she’s been around.
He isn’t afraid to say what he thinks; she’s opinionated.
He exercises authority; she’s bossy.
He’s discreet; she’s secretive.
He’s a stern taskmaster; she’s difficult to work for.



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26 Sep 2010, 5:35 am

menintights wrote:
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How to Tell a Businessman from a Businesswoman

A businessman is aggressive; a businesswoman is pushy.
He is careful about details; she is picky.
He loses his temper because he’s so involved in his job; she’s bitchy.
He’s depressed (or hungover), so everyone tiptoes past his office; she’s moody, so it must be her time of the month.
He follows through; she doesn’t know how to quit.
He’s firm; she’s stubborn.
He makes wise judgments; she reveals her prejudices.
He is a man of the world; she’s been around.
He isn’t afraid to say what he thinks; she’s opinionated.
He exercises authority; she’s bossy.
He’s discreet; she’s secretive.
He’s a stern taskmaster; she’s difficult to work for.


And then there are some female bosses who are really pushy, picky b*****s, who are moody nags, stubborn, close minded, old hags who are opinionated, bossy, and difficult to work for. *bongo drums*



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27 Sep 2010, 9:51 am

That would've worked if you'd said there are male bosses who are pushy, picky, moody (I hesitate to use the word "bitchy"), etc. etc. As it is, looks like whoever made the list was right on target.