ladies. not saying hi is not going to stop an attacker

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I hear this all the time from ladies '' I don't say hi to men, because many women are assault by men''
Ok. why do so many women think that because they don't say hi or talk to guy, that is going stop a attacker
from assaulting them? an attacker is going to attack a woman, no matter if she says hi or not.
the crazy men will just go up and attack the women.
and second not all men who attack women, look and act like creepy guys either.
some of these men are very good looking and charming and can easily can get a women to trust him and then they attack.

I guess many women think if they don't say hi. That will prevent them from getting attack.
and all attacker look and act like creepy guys.
I guess only that strange acting weird guy must want to attack you.
But that good looking buff guy with the sweet personality would never ever attack you.

most attacks on women are by people they know.

I will have to agree with BillIsCool, in that in most cases, it's not the "weird, creepy guy" that assaults women. It's usually the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. In a lot of cases, it *is* the buff guy with the sweet personality who will put on his charm, and then take advantage of the woman's naivety, and then expose his true colors.

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest ... chrodinger’s-rapist-or-a-guy’s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/

I am too tired to really elaborate on this, but really the article speaks for itself.

doodz, don't be stupid. It's not just being raped that we're trying to avoid. Sometimes we're just trying to avoid talking to you (ie, we don't feel like being hit on at the moment). Sometimes we don't want to allow the slightly closer approach that a conversation allows by social convention.
Also: if a woman is scared enough, she might not even be in a verbal space.

Great! I was going to link that too

Why do you continue to post things like this when you clearly have absolutely no understanding of the situation, and in the womens forum of all places?

We have no obligation to speak to anyone we don't want to - for any reason.

Last edited by Kjas on 30 Dec 2012, 7:14 am, edited 1 time in total.

Saying "Hi" opens a conversation, it invites a man to carry on a conversation and potentially in some guys minds it's an opening to make a move - not saying 'Hi' sends a clear message that you're not interested in anything from a man, it keeps a distance.

Three times I've been approached by a man on the street and talked to him [to be friendly, to avoid making them mad or showing I'm scared] it's ended up making things worse...being followed down the street in the dark by a guy trying to continue the conversation, asking me personal questions while doing so, and making me scared as hell as I'm all alone and they could do anything to me. Doesn't matter what they look like or if it's innocent, women are taught that men are a risk - it may not be right, but it's important to our survival.

Pretty much this.

I used to say "Good morning" to my old neighbor. He was obviously lonely, so that progressed to offering him coffee.

He took it as license, started trying to get into my pants, never did stop.

Even if they don't turn out to be creepy, people talk about a woman that is friendly to men.

And if something does happen, and you were friendly, it's "your fault." It's s**t but that's the standard. You brought it on yourself.

And God forbid if you have a significant other or spouse. Making eye contact with another man is considered flirting-- so speaking is, like, first base. If you smile, you might as well be going at it right there on the sidewalk.

I don't like women, but I'm not friendly toward men any more. Guess I'm going to rot by myself once the kids are grown.

And people wonder why women are bitter and mean.

Late memo to Kjas: Little Billy's understanding of women is equivalent to that of a 5 year old.

I'm well aware of that.

That's why I said why do we have to put up with this crap in the womens forum?
It defeats the purpose of having the womens forum.

If he wants to post his crap he can do it elsewhere.

Yeah, it actually is the "weird creepy guy." Check out this link: My friend has the case of the weird creepy guy

The creepers usually come off as desperate, annoying, and clingy. The kind of guy you're referring to is the "player," which is no where near the same as the "creepy guy." The main difference being that some women actually want the "players". That type of man can only get the trashy desperate women.

Yes exactly. Every time a male posts about this topic it turns into thread with a bunch of guys weltering in their own self-pity and complaining about how illogical and emotional we get. What they don't understand is that's precisely the attitude self-respecting women find unattractive. What's worse is when one of them actually tries to give advice. Not only because 90% of the time it's wrong, but wrong and also incredibly sexist.

ok, that guy is just being annoying, that is not what Im talking about. I ain't talking about creepy guys hitting on you. I talking about guys who will actual attack you.

yes. billiscool, please check out these two threads for clarification about what is acceptable in the Women's forum:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt141113.html
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt181819.html

this section of the forum is somewhat protected. when starting threads here, your biggest hint is... if you are making women in this are of the forum upset or uncomfortable, or starting threads to complain, or are telling them what they should think/feel/do... you're crossing the line. evidently, some women of the forum are not comfortable with your threads here, so you are going to need to stop with this type of thing.

if you are ever uncertain about what kind of thread is acceptable, you can always ask a moderator (any one of us) before you post the thread and we'll let you know before it causes problems. another guideline is to ask questions instead of essentially charging in here and telling women what you believe is true.

thank you for your understanding.