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15 Sep 2009, 4:09 am

I'm a man and I wanted to put a theory forward. I was a member here about 3 years ago with another name (i forgot it so joined again) . Anyway there seems to be a lot of jealousy with ALL the socially naive aspies I know toward sexually experience aspies. I just wrote this elsewhere and wanted to see if it rings true with anyone. thanks.

"I think a lot of the inexperienced guys here dont actually want a relationship but want the experience and respect that having relationships brings. When i first joined WP there were respected people who had had lots of relationships. Because they had had lots of relationships they knew a lot about human nature and how to deal with people/situations and lots of people came to them for advice. There relationships had not been happy, in lots of cases they had horror stories to tell about being abused and taken advantage of. But, they were looked up to and respected and seen as credible and worth listening too.
A lot of the adult virgins on the site were not taken seriously, not because they were virgins, but because they were immature, child-like people, the virginity was just a side effect of that, the fact that they were too child like for a relationship another black mark against anyone looking up to them or taking them seriously. I think there was a lot of jealousy from them toward the people who had lots of relationships, not because they were jealous of the sex or the (often abusive) relationships, but because they were jealous of the experience and respect and people treating them like they were worldy-wise."



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15 Sep 2009, 4:39 am

I guess you're looking for women to post, especially "experienced women", but since you haven't specified this as a "women only" thread I'll chip in first as one of the inexperienced guys you appear to be speaking of.

Most of what you say I cannot question because you speak in the past tense, referring to a time when I was not a member of this community. But I can give you some context on what the situation is like now: at the moment the "Love and Dating" forum is largely overrun with frustrated men. It has a different complexion to most of the forum, demographically-speaking. I actually find it quite depressing and unpleasant, on the whole, but I post there anyway because it does serve as a sort of outlet and I get decent advice from people occasionally.

I might not be the best representative of the "sexually inexperienced" men of this forum, I don't really know. But personally, I don't think AS has given me much trouble in my life. I was diagnosed at a young age and always knew I was different, but especially since I entered my teens I haven't had much trouble making friends. I went through school and college without needing extra support for social difficulties. No luck with the girls, though. Who knows? AS may have little or nothing to do with it. So if you mean to allude that the socially capable aspies are precisely the sexually experienced aspies, my intuitions say otherwise though perhaps there is some correlation.

If your claim is merely "many sexually inexperienced men are jealous of sexually experienced people" then it's much more believable. But that has little to do with this forum or AS in general; lots of men want what they don't have. I don't think there's much to read into from that.



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15 Sep 2009, 4:55 am

If you looked at my sexual experience history you might think I was a real party girl but the truth is these encounters were fueled by alcohol and never turned into the relationship I hoped for. They were also very sporadic, often with years in between. I have virtually no real relationship experience. If not for alcohol, I might still be a virgin. Not that I'm advocating alcohol, I'm a recovering alcoholic.



15 Sep 2009, 6:56 am

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17 Sep 2009, 11:45 am

I'll be perfectly honest, I had my first consenting sexual relationship at the age of 8 with another girl my age. It was interesting, lasted until she moved away, and I have never had one since.

Edit: and in reality, I'm not looking at the moment, and am not interested in a sexual relationship until after I have a more stable long term relationship, unlike my most recent boyfriend. I'd rather a girlfriend anyways...



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18 Sep 2009, 10:47 pm

Oh yes darling I am so envious and jealous of all that rampant venereal disease like AIDS they spread.



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19 Sep 2009, 3:11 am

I think definitely AS people can be late bloomers, as I said in another thread. We can stay virgins for considerably longer. So what? I remember I was the very last of the people i knew at the time to go down that road.

Even when it is commenced it is not plain sailing, particularly if you have sensory problems, eating disorders, depression, anxiety...

I was watching a documentary about Kim Cattrall, she was talking about her Samantha role, and her role in Porky's. She said that satisfaction in the area of physical happiness came late in life for her, even though she was playing these hot roles, it didnt reflect what was going on in her life.

So I hope people will take heart.. you never know what could happen.


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19 Sep 2009, 3:35 am

Ummm......experienced women or the be all end all majority that have had sex. I guess you could most likely count me out unless there is another definition of holy virginity or virginity in general you don't subscribe to such a rape toward a woman.


I'd have to say, I'm still in wonder and curiousity of what it's like to enjoy and get sex as easy as the way women are described mostly on this forum. I'm still "left out"....in fact I even had a comment here in one thread that it wasn't normal for (my kind) not to have sex the majority of the time. I swear, I really do think ppl subscribe there culture much more toward what they see on screen than in reality.


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21 Sep 2009, 7:31 pm

It's only certain human beings who are jealous of experienced women.

I think it's lame to label all aspies like that.

The reason why you see people bitching in the love and dating forums is because that's the population who have trouble.

There are aspies who have never heard of WP or don't post in love and dating if they have heard of it because they don't feel the need to b***h.

I don't have issues talking with girls even if I come off as a creep, people need to learn to get some self love.



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18 Apr 2010, 8:10 pm

I have to say you have figured me out. I am a 40 year-old man, who is still a virgin and can't shake the child-like ways instinctively. I am jealous of those who have been around the loop and wish I could trade several i.q. points in knowledge, for an 'I don't care attitude', which would surely get me laid. Every day that goes by, is another day of depression.



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18 Apr 2010, 8:43 pm

Sirius wrote:
I have to say you have figured me out. I am a 40 year-old man, who is still a virgin and can't shake the child-like ways instinctively. I am jealous of those who have been around the loop and wish I could trade several i.q. points in knowledge, for an 'I don't care attitude', which would surely get me laid. Every day that goes by, is another day of depression.


There is always someone willing to take your virginity, even if at a price. Not the best idea to be honest, but, think outside the box. Sex isn't the be all and end all of human existence. Go meet people, be socially active in a group you feel comfortable, meet people, talk to people, talk to all people, talk to some more people, and eventually one of them will be ignorant. Holing yourself up in a closet is a pretty good way to never meet people. And if you want casual sex, there are places to find that. If you are looking for anything other than casual sex, most dating sites are not for you. Best place to meet someone is somewhere you could talk to someone with similar interests. Tis how I met my current not quite bf, we aren't dating or anything, but we might, depending on whether or not he moves at the end of this term. Neither of use are willing o do a long distance relationship.



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20 Apr 2010, 1:49 am

Aimless wrote:
If you looked at my sexual experience history you might think I was a real party girl but the truth is these encounters were fueled by alcohol and never turned into the relationship I hoped for. They were also very sporadic, often with years in between. I have virtually no real relationship experience. If not for alcohol, I might still be a virgin. Not that I'm advocating alcohol, I'm a recovering alcoholic.


Oh finally I find someone like myself.

I can't help but wonder why there aren't many alcoholics on this forum. That was my "cure" for social frustrations.

I wasn't party girl either, in fact I really never got to enjoy sex and the encounters were very few. In some ways I still consider myself a virgin but for some reason people think that there something really important about the act itself but not the quality. Out of the very few of them, I only had a brief relationship with one guy who was abusive. That has been my experience with the opposite sex and I feel like I've missed out on a lot at 26.

Now I remain abstinent and alone.


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