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03 Sep 2015, 7:05 am

Are Aspies more likely to be misogynists than NTs? Or is this just how men really think? Makes me never want to speak to any ever again. :(



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03 Sep 2015, 2:39 pm

No I don't think it's directly related. Maybe indirectly. A lot of aspie guys may have gotten bitter due to a lack of success with relationships and women. I think that's where the hate comes from.

Btw I'm an aspie male. I consider myself to be a feminist and there is almost no group I hate more than Men's rights activists.



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03 Sep 2015, 3:15 pm

This topic was discussed at length in spring this year.

The chaps in L&D talk quite openly and engage in collaborative relationship/social problem solving, and I am of the belief that their opinions are representative of men in general, not specifically men with ASD.
Maybe you are referring to the Adult section also, but those 2 sub forums are not an accurate representation of the other 27 sub forums. It is a biased sample.

Maybe because this is an environment where open discussion is encouraged they write about things in detail that men without social difficulties implicitly understand, and do not need to verbalise.

I consider the majority of posts from the WP menfolk to be informative and clever and yes at times how some posters speak about women bothers me, but I consider them to be a minority on this forum.

L&D or Adult Autism Issues are not representative of the majority of male members, but as there isn't a Mens sub forum those 2 sub-forums are like a street corner where some of the younger guys hang out talking about the problems in their love lives.



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04 Sep 2015, 2:55 am

I agree there are lots of them, but see/hear just as many IRL, on facebook, on TV, youtube, and 10x more on 4chan...



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04 Sep 2015, 3:09 am

I think there is a certain amount of bitterness about a lack of romantic success. Also, making gendered stereotypes is somewhat normalized in the general population (for both men and women) so it doesn't come as that much of a surprise that it would happen here. And I get the impression that there are more men than women here so it would follow that there would be more threads about negative female stereotypes.



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04 Sep 2015, 5:00 am

Some of them have been repeating from rote memory in their heads "There are no girls on the internet..." for something like a decade. I meanwhile frequented ALL the same nonsense sites, and girls are the ONLY reason I have anything to do with the internet whatsoever. Everything else online provides insufficient mysteries, even predicating my whole career on the internet. :roll:


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04 Sep 2015, 5:12 am

I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm misogynist, but I might go as far as saying I'm anti-feminist. I'm a girl. That doesn't go to say I hate all females, just I'm slightly more likely to take a dislike to them than for males. Just if someone says something sexist against girls it really doesn't bother me, but if people are sexist against boys it does. I don't really know how to explain why, but I have my reasons and it's not "internalized misogyny", as feminists say to girls who do not support their movement.



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04 Sep 2015, 5:19 am

So... exigathropy?

Sometimes I think I'm a misanthrope, but then I consider the tables simply could've been turned prior to my existing and perhaps it's everyone else trying to purge their human nature.


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04 Sep 2015, 5:49 pm

I think there might be a few posters who fit the description. For the most part, though, I think most of the other guys just want to find someone. It can cause some bitterness and negativity when it doesn't happen. It can also cause jealousy when they see their female counterparts typically get more opportunities. It's hard for some guys to understand that those opportunities aren't usually that great.



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04 Sep 2015, 6:00 pm

I'm fed up with it to the point of becoming disinterested in this forum.
I'm also fed up with it in my own personal life.
It seems that men like to fire all there vitriol for all that is wrong in life towards women.
Like we are somehow supposed to validate their lives.
I'm fed up with it,
I'm sick of being the whipping girl.



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04 Sep 2015, 6:08 pm

It becomes a vicious cycle, really. The bitterness leads to less opportunities and less success, which leads to more bitterness, etc.



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04 Sep 2015, 6:56 pm

Agemaki wrote:
I think there is a certain amount of bitterness about a lack of romantic success. Also, making gendered stereotypes is somewhat normalized in the general population (for both men and women) so it doesn't come as that much of a surprise that it would happen here. And I get the impression that there are more men than women here so it would follow that there would be more threads about negative female stereotypes.


I think it's possible that part of the reason that there aren't more women on this site is because many that join don't last very long before they lose interest or feel unwelcome enough to leave because of the attitude towards women (and the tendency to minimize or attempt to erase the experiences of women on the spectrum) that is so often expressed here. If I were a woman I don't think I would feel particularly safe or welcome in many of the discussions here.



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04 Sep 2015, 8:41 pm

Beyond all of them, we even have the Voluntary Human Extinction League¡!¡

I think dogmatic bias against anyone, including oneself can have several outcomes; either the one(s) drinking their haterade more or less implode on themselves due to wasted energy, the people recieving the hate find irrefutable means to bring a stop to the BS or everyone just aquiesces to coexistence because they're too lazy to find their own planet to keep everyone else away from.


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04 Sep 2015, 9:06 pm

Probably a consequence of the bitterness resulting from constant rejection (friendships or otherwise), the illusion that female Aspies cope better (hence misplaced jealousy) and a pinch of... ignorance?

I am convinced that like some forms of "racism", select Aspies have uninspiring views of females because they haven't really met many (akin to grandparents holding racist views towards ethnic minorities because they never met any in person!).

Also, haterade ha ha.



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05 Sep 2015, 3:23 am

D0gbert wrote:
Probably a consequence of the bitterness resulting from constant rejection (friendships or otherwise), the illusion that female Aspies cope better (hence misplaced jealousy) and a pinch of... ignorance?

I am convinced that like some forms of "racism", select Aspies have uninspiring views of females because they haven't really met many (akin to grandparents holding racist views towards ethnic minorities because they never met any in person!).

Also, haterade ha ha.


The root of prejudice: fear of the unknown! D0gbert that makes so much sense.



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05 Sep 2015, 3:41 am

I'm new here, and I haven't come across this (misogyny) yet. I guess that's something to anticipate, then.


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