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10 Feb 2009, 4:20 pm

With men, this is how thinsg go. When things go ugly, they yell, maybe fight or cool off, then simmer, and finally will cool down at soem point in the next week or two.

When women fight, they snipe at each other, call each other whore, b***h, slut, bimbo, and even when they appear to have forgiven each other, they still try to drive each other insane with rage.


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10 Feb 2009, 5:22 pm

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The women's restroom was one of the cleanest I had ever seen.

I won't deny that men's bathrooms are hella nasty, but having briefly worked as a janitor back in the 90's, I can say that women's bathrooms have their fair share of ick. I constantly found massive wads of bloody tampons and maxi pads jammed into the toilets, overflowed with s**t, odd clumps of hair, and in at least one case, diarrhea splattered all over the wall. The little disposal boxes next to the toilet were always a frightening mass of similar things, which was always a joy to clean when someone had failed to replace the bag. At a past office job, the women's bathroom overflowed s**t and piss all over the place because someone had jammed it so full of I-don't-know-what that the janitor refused to clean it and our HR officer was forced to take care of the problem.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:34 pm

Damn, how f*****g stupid.


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12 Feb 2009, 2:58 pm

I do agree about a lot of men not being clean though. But some women can be like it too. I hate germs :evil:


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12 Feb 2009, 3:44 pm

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GoatOnFire: People suffering from Male Spectrum Disorder can't help themselves. The parts of the brain that normally allow for sensitivity are atrophied. Except with early intervention, personal hygiene is a skill that few can master. Resentful of GTs (gender-typicals, i.e., women), they express hostility by calling us all sorts of names (“b***h”, etc). While the cause of MSD is unknown some believe that early hormonal stresses cause a burst of muscle development at the expense of neural development. Intellectually stunted, but physically powerful, males often resort to violence to achieve goals that they are unable to achieve by reason. Among the tragic consequences of MSD are that our prisons are full of male sufferers, wars are started and fought, and GTs are physically abused. Surgical intervention (castration) may relieve some symptoms, but is opposed by male ‘gender-diversity’ groups.

8O

This would be funny if it weren't also frightening. Somewhere, I fear, there is a group of Feminazis that is gleefully celebrating the proliferation of posts just like this.


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12 Feb 2009, 3:50 pm

I think this argument and train of thought started somewhere around 50,000 years ago and still has some time to go before it is resolved.


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12 Feb 2009, 6:42 pm

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Which generalizing?

I used to be attracted to skinny intellectual types, then I shifted over to being attracted to nice men with muscles (there are some very sweet men who are built - it's genetics. What can they do?). It's because I used to be afraid of men, so picked the ones who looked least threatening (not a compliment!), then over time I grew less afraid of men and started wanting to be around a man I could lean on, especially since the skinny non-threatening ones were people I couldn't lean on.

Skinny looking geeks aren't necessarily nice guys. Sometimes they can be pretty self-absorbed. And sometimes they can be spectacularly bad at relationships (without being autistic). (And sometimes very funny, too.)


I second that. Guys with intellectual pressures, hang ups, over competitiveness, etc. that have something to prove, never get very far with me. The same goes for women with similar issues. Not everything in life reads like a science text. The pervasiveness of generalisations is quite remarkable, and it still surprises me when people get upset about them. I guess it's all about attitude. I suppose one of the hardest questions for scientists to answer is "Just how different are we from each other?". The circumstances of our behaviour seem to exploit the human primate, more often than not, and that's when generalisations about each sex come into play the most.



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12 Feb 2009, 6:50 pm

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When women make derogatory statements they do it with the intent to hurt. The majority of the time men do it as either fun or because thats how they see that person's actions (note i didn't say that person). A father might call his son a douchebag but that doesn't mean he loves his son any less than if he called him a wonder boy. I've yet to encounter a mother calling her daughter a derogtory name that didn't mean it to hurt the daughter as opposed to just expressing that she thought the daughters actions were a bit foolish


I've yet to encounter a mother who didn't resent and hate her daughter, no matter how hard she felt obliged to hide the fact. *shrugs*


Mine hates me.

There have actually been many times where I've called someone a name, not with the intent to hurt them, but it caused them to become really upset with me over it. I guess because I'm a female? I had no idea that there was a perceptive difference in people (mostly men), just because I am a woman. Or am I ignorant of my own intentions? I am pretty Aspish, so there's probably no telling at this point.



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12 Feb 2009, 8:31 pm

Now I think some posting here have serious issues that go far beyond the scope of the original question which was fairly generic.


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12 Feb 2009, 8:48 pm

I consider myself to be something of a feminist, at least following on from my mother. I believe women are still unfairly disadvantaged in many areas of life, and that more attention needs to be drawn to such difficulties. However, within my age group I personally have gotten along much better with men than women. That might be a social/cultural thing since I'm a guy who is usually interested in male-dominated activities, or it could partly be down to my own anxieties, but either way that's been my experience. All but one of the twenty or so people who have been good friends with me for any period have been male.

That said I know some men, even my age, who are pretty nasty with women. Flirting for some of them involves saying horrible things in an only half-joking manner, or they just think of women as a lower form of life in several respects. I make a point of generally going silent and (perhaps literally) walking away from their conversations about women. Most of the men I know, at least in college, are more egalitarian.



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13 Feb 2009, 1:06 am

All I have to do is walk around my campus to see some guy flirting with a female by telling them semi-jokingly they are fat, ugly, and slu*ty. I have no idea why those girls put up with that s**t.

If I tried that, it would never work because it wouldn't come out right.


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13 Feb 2009, 2:51 am

Hector wrote:
However, within my age group I personally have gotten along much better with men than women. That might be a social/cultural thing since I'm a guy who is usually interested in male-dominated activities, or it could partly be down to my own anxieties, but either way that's been my experience. All but one of the twenty or so people who have been good friends with me for any period have been male.

Exact opposite here. I'd guess that a good 90-95% of my friends/acquaintances are female. I've always figured that this has a lot to do with my childhood - Dad was the "fun" one, but irresponsible, alcoholic, etc. When they divorced, my Mom had to handle everything on her own, put up with all my crap, so on some level, maybe I subconsciously equate strength, resilience, and reliability with women, and weakness, apathy, and unreliability with men. I don't know if similar experiences would explain why your friends are mostly men. It could also be that you're just not as comfortable around women, maybe you give off the impression that you're immature for your age (and I'm not saying that you are), or maybe your other friends are off-putting to women.

I'm curious what constitutes a "male-dominated" activity, though.



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13 Feb 2009, 7:05 am

I define a male-dominated activity to be one where the great majority of people who partake in it are male.

I don't regard my father as being irresponsible, but my parents separated when I was quite young and I lived with my mother since I was four. I have a great deal of admiration for my mother, who certainly is responsible and hard-working (and has had a successful life with it), and she's had a major influence on me in many respects. I can't say I dislike women, but I have had a hard time getting along with most of them and since I entered my teens many seemed suspicious of me. In my secondary school, I found that after I managed to shake off the bullies I was at least tolerated and accepted by all of the guys in my year but I still was hardly on speaking terms with most of the girls.

Looking at my Facebook profile, about 3/4 of my "friends" there are men, but this is the same for the guys I know in my mathematics classes with girlfriends. That might have to do with our "male-dominated activity", which is mathematics work. The guys I know in the arts faculty have a more even spread of acquaintances. Apart from that, I'm not sure how much of the above has to do with the women I know and how much of the above has to do with me and my own anxieties.



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18 Feb 2009, 1:08 am

penny07960 wrote:
GoatOnFire: People suffering from Male Spectrum Disorder can't help themselves. The parts of the brain that normally allow for sensitivity are atrophied. Except with early intervention, personal hygiene is a skill that few can master. Resentful of GTs (gender-typicals, i.e., women), they express hostility by calling us all sorts of names (“b***h”, etc). While the cause of MSD is unknown some believe that early hormonal stresses cause a burst of muscle development at the expense of neural development. Intellectually stunted, but physically powerful, males often resort to violence to achieve goals that they are unable to achieve by reason. Among the tragic consequences of MSD are that our prisons are full of male sufferers, wars are started and fought, and GTs are physically abused. Surgical intervention (castration) may relieve some symptoms, but is opposed by male ‘gender-diversity’ groups.


I like this and I'm a guy. :lol:



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22 Feb 2009, 4:42 pm

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I have lived in a dorm for the past two years and I have to say I now understand why women are so hard on men. They're disgusting. :x They're two faced. (I hear what they say behind your back) And they are generally meaner.


I have heard many men say this exact same thing about other men. Basically, any straight man whom I´ve ever been close to- (which isn´t many, I´m afraid- my brother is one)- have told me that "men are a-holes". Which doesn´t inspire confidence, I must say.


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23 Feb 2009, 3:16 pm

Morgana wrote:
GoatOnFire wrote:
I have lived in a dorm for the past two years and I have to say I now understand why women are so hard on men. They're disgusting. :x They're two faced. (I hear what they say behind your back) And they are generally meaner.


I have heard many men say this exact same thing about other men. Basically, any straight man whom I´ve ever been close to- (which isn´t many, I´m afraid- my brother is one)- have told me that "men are a-holes". Which doesn´t inspire confidence, I must say.


*ponders* I'm not sure whether it's that men are more unpleasant than women, or whether it just seems that way because a) men tend to just say what they think rather than put on a sweet (false) smile and then engage in passive-aggressive behavior, and b) what might sound terrible to women sometimes when one man speaks to another is intended as humor, and likewise being taken as humor.

I won't say I've never, ever had any bad treatment from men, but it was usually one-off incidents that I felt were more the guy in question just being idiotic or trying to impress/amuse someone else he was with. All the prolonged, calculated campaigns of harrassment and bullying against me were from other women.