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20 May 2009, 7:45 am

Does anyone else get weirded out when men have sexual conversations around you? By this I mean anything from talking about sex to joking about it, to really anything vaguely hinting at it. It is something that has always made me feel uncomfortable, but then I end up taking part so as to not get singled out. Thankfully I am seeing a gender specialist now, and will soon enough not have to tolerate these discussions because of being seen as male. At least then I can tell them to tone it down around me a bit without getting singled out. Right now I just feel helpless about it, and I mean sure there are times I want to talk about something sexual, just not like how men talk around each other, and preferably not in a group larger than 3 or I also don't mind an online discussion where I can leave if I feel uncomfortable.



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20 May 2009, 8:16 am

^^ Oh dear, I am very sorry as I do not believe I have this problem. Human males certainly have these conversations, however I am often not a part of their group and often just ignore them.



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20 May 2009, 8:35 am

Unfortunatly, I am living as a male right now, until I feel I am ready to start living full time as a female. This means I have to pass as a male in most regards, and put up with stuff that makes me feel uncomfortable. I also don't plan to start living as a female until I look at least passable enough that people won't look at me as crossdressing. I am very very self concious about my image, not my male image (I couldn't care less what anyone thinks about my male body, it just sin't me), but my image as a female, and how I am perceived that way. My requirements for when I go full time is that my visible body hair and facial hair is gone. The rest I am more than capable of making work with a bit of make up (once I learn how to wear it) and self maintainence. The sooner I can be treated like the woman I am, the better.



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20 May 2009, 8:49 am

Are you going through the full transgender surgery? If you are, I wish you well. I knew someone who went through it and she is happy now with herself. (She was male before.)

I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. I can't imagine how rough it would be to have to "pretend" to be your gender. It makes it doubly hard to have AS with this, because you have trouble "fitting in" to begin with!


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20 May 2009, 8:55 am

Yes I plan on having SRS, I mean what good is looking and feeling like a woman if your drivers license and birth certificate still have a big M on them? It just makes my more susceptible to discrimination to not have the surgery. Plus, I don't like what {I have down there right now to begin wit, and can't wait to be rid of it.



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20 May 2009, 9:03 am

whitetiger wrote:
It makes it doubly hard to have AS with this, because you have trouble "fitting in" to begin with!


Actually, AS makes it a bit easier for me. It gives me something to blame if someone picks up on the idea that I might not be gentically female, and the isolation aspect is perfect during the early stages where my appearence would just get me treated poorly.



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24 May 2009, 3:51 pm

It doesn't make me uncomfortable, but I've never really mastered the analog rules for how much sex to talk about, and in how much detail. I get the "No Sex" and the "Anything Goes" conversational rules, but there are situations where people ARE talking about sex, and I join in, and give the dreaded Too Much Information, and manage to weird everybody out. Oops?

I'm glad you're taking the step to change your body to fit you better, and hope the surgery goes well!



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24 May 2009, 3:57 pm

No, I don't get weirded out, but sex and sexuality are special interests for me and I don't have any kind of religious guilt about those topics, or any sexual trauma that is triggered by such discussions.



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31 May 2009, 12:12 pm

I don't think there's a problem with you if you don't like it. Not at all. I sometimes have felt the same way in the past hanging with male friends (I'm a little bit tomboyish). I don't think it's about guilt or trauma even, I think of this sort of thing as being about more as respecting people's comfort zones and making them feel alright in the conversation. Everyone differs, and I'm not sure myself how to reconcile the individual levels.

It's hard because there seems to be this idea that that's what men are meant to talk about. I dunno. You could get involved in pursuits that require action rather than conversation. Like playing pool? (billiards)