Adept theory

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I am testing a theory of mine. Am I crazy, or does this have at least some bearing in reality?

Anyways, my theory is that society can be divided into 2 basic "predispositions" of human being. The ones of focus I call the "adepts." I believe myself to be an adept, as well as my best friend and my mother. Adepts tend to be introverted, caring, idealistic and intelligent people. They are a minority in America, where people are hard-pressed to be "cool" and extroverted. However most of those calling themselves outside the norm, EG the "goth" and "emo" people, are definitely NOT adepts. Normal people (non-adepts) who don't understand or care about adepts are called "regulars." Normal people who care about adepts are called "overseers." The overseers are our allies.

I prefer the term "adept" to the term "aspie."

You may be an adept if...

>You have Asperger’s Syndrome, ADD, high-functioning autism, or something similar

>You enjoy reading books, either fiction or nonfiction

>You aren’t that interested in sports

>You acknowledge pop culture, but you don’t consider yourself part of it

>You talk in a voice undistorted by the swingy, “teenager” dialect.

>You are not trying to be “hip”

>You are intrigued by science, and consider it an important part of your interests

>You consider yourself intelligent, possibly more so than your peers

>You are introverted

>You dislike mainstream music for being too angry or sexual

>You are intrigued by mysticism, mythology and/or spirituality

>You aren't involved in an organized religion

>You care about the environment

>You wish life was more like a video game, book or movie

>You have a vivid inner world

Finally, I believe the adepts are destined to change the world for the better. We naturally question life and all its complexities, we care for nature. Anyone who reads this and believes themselves to be an adept please respond and tell me what you think!

Cheers,
Forestknight 25

first off, correct me if I'm wrong but that would be 3 basic predispositions. I would also like to note that all of those attributes aside from the first one apply to a vast majority of the public on some level or another. It seems like you are saying all Aspies are enlightened and working towards bettering our world. This just isnt true

There are also emo people and goths with the same diagnosis and outlook on life that you are describing. You are making a lot of mass generalizations, which is a form of discrimination in and of itself.

That said, its a good theory, it just needs some refinement and perhaps to lose that superiority vibe I'm getting from it. Sure I feel like I understand some things better than the "regulars" you refer tp (I would fall into "adept") at the same time I know there are things that they definately understand better than I do.

On top of that, wouldn't my lack of understanding and caring about most of these "regulars" give me "regular" qualities of my own? My point here is that maybe its not as cut and dry as it seems at first glance.

I think you should include a disclaimer to assuage my fears of imperialism and manifest destiny.

Hahahaaaaaaaa!

Caught spanking the monkey to World of Warcaraft

*link with adult content removed*

It looks like you described yourself and declared your way of life superior to any other way. It’s human nature to blindly consider yourself superior to others in some (or all) ways. You might want to put yourself in the majority section, or the “regular” list, for that reason.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Come to think of it I am very insecure, and I wanted to separate my "people," however imagined and theoretical, from the masses.

But bear in mind, this is just one of my many thoughts, and I had my doubts about it too.

Your adept theory sounds similar to the "indigo children" movement. See, for instance:

http://www.skepticreport.com/newage/indigoblues.htm

http://metagifted.org/topics/metagifted/indigo/whoAreTheIndigoChildren.html

Haha! You sound like that freak Dr. Broadman. Have fun with your haaaaaaaaaand!

That's right, I'm Elite in having met the testing and training requirements to have served in the USAF. Together, we are a force to be reckoned with, in hopes to work for a good common goal with ALL people. Not communist Elitists!

Fanaticism intruding into autism debate

http://www.awares.org/conferences/bb.as ... hreadmode=
flat&forum=000100190073

Well it just sounds like you been following me about! lol And yes, you may well be crazy, but by the NT world's standards, that not a bad thing

Who is Dr. Broadman?



I am a socialist. However, I am strongly opposed to elitism. As I wrote in that narrative:

"Nonetheless, if there is to be a next stage in humanity's sociocultural evolution, it may not, as some aspies have conjectured, be a grand aspergian civilization or Aspergia. It may, rather, subsume a humble embrace of our neurodiversities with a concomitant renunciation of the pretensions of neurelitism."
http://narrative.neurelitism.com



I advocate tolerance and inclusion, not fanaticism.

Who is Dr. Broadman?

He's a man that was involved with the determination movement, long ago.

I don't like the separatist approach, but I can understand the feeling. There are as many arguments for inclusion, as there are against it. In the public school education, there was a reverse inclusion Charter School in Florida that sounded interesting. But I couldn't find updated information.

I dont like reading books so I cant be "adept". I like movies and see no point in reading the books.

I would contest some of those. For one thing, I am often almost desperately extroverted, and I have a nearly neurotic need for touch. This contrasts deeply for my propensity for also going for months without needing or caring for any kind of human contact at all. I vary between hyper-schizoid and super-social almost along the same pattern that rapid-cycling bipolars go through periods of mania and depression. Also, I find black metal and thrash metal, particularly based on the theme of psychosis or apocalyptic chaos, relaxing and comforting much of the time, and I think there should be more of it in the mainstream; furthermore, I am highly impressed with some artists who have made it with the mainstream, and I don't think that they should be closed out just because they succeeded in appealing to non-weirdoes. Although I do have an interest and deep knowledge of the sciences, I actually consider philosophy and ethical theory more stimulating; the sciences are just part of my "day job," really, and I'm damned good at it. Now, you'll also find a few people who are both remarkably brilliant and interested in some specific sport, often cycling: a lot of history's great savants were remarkably interested in things like cycling, tennis, swimming and so forth.

Overall, however, I think that you have a fairly good concept. I would contest the term, "adept," as supercilious, though. I don't know what I would use in place of it. Perhaps we'll just resuscitate "virtuoso." It's a much better term because one of its obsolete meanings is one who has special interest or knowledge in the sciences, but it also implies the possibility of creative gifts in the stead of scientific acheivements. Furthermore, it's less arrogant because the word innately implies a specific set of talents. We could append adjectives as limiters, such as "musical virtuoso" or "general-artistic virtuoso" or "empirical-analytical virtuoso." Your term has merits as well, though. The difficult part of any such idea is coming up with a fitting title or term.

>You have Asperger’s Syndrome, ADD, high-functioning autism, or something similar
Yes, I do have a mental disorder.
>You enjoy reading books, either fiction or nonfiction
Not particularly.
>You aren’t that interested in sports
I like sword fighting and javelin throwing; I, obviously like sport.
>You acknowledge pop culture, but you don’t consider yourself part of it
No, I don't acknowledge pop culture.
>You talk in a voice undistorted by the swingy, “teenager” dialect.
No, I talk in the dialect of Mikey from Ninja Turtles, dude.
>You are not trying to be “hip”
I actually am.
>You are intrigued by science, and consider it an important part of your interests
Not really.
>You consider yourself intelligent, possibly more so than your peers
Well, yeah, that's because I am smarter than...most people.
>You are introverted
So?
>You dislike mainstream music for being too angry or sexual
It's not angry enough for me.
>You are intrigued by mysticism, mythology and/or spirituality
No, I'm not.
>You aren't involved in an organized religion
No, I'm not.
>You care about the environment
Not really.
>You wish life was more like a video game, book or movie
Yeah, like the computer game DEFCON.
>You have a vivid inner world
No.

I love the way "Virtuoso" rolls off the tongue!

Kind of elitist, huh... it's like you've just made an arbitrary connection between autism and virtuosity. Someone could easily do the opposite... probably even more effectively!

You might be adept if you...

... have a strong ability to connect with others
... if you have a pronounced ability to feel yourself in other person's situation
... if you're good at being outgoing and keeping conversations going
... if you are comfortable around people and don't have ensuing anxiety issues because of them
... if you are not particularly self-centered (aspies are often very self-centered--not a virtue)
... you get the idea.

You're just seeing the good things about autism and pretending like that's all there is, virtuosity, and then calling it "adept." Sure, they may be adept at some things, but autism is still a disorder. And as I showed, you can easily flip the argument over. You can show all the ways that NTs are virtuous and then call them "adepts." It really doesn't do anything.