Whats everybodys thoughts on regressive autism?

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20 Nov 2007, 12:23 am

I had so many parents complain that their child was never born with autism, they regressed to the point and got autism, im like wow, thats wrong! Its called a developmental disorder for a reason, because around the developmental age the signs usually show the most! Anybody else agree? Whats everybody elses thoughts about regressive autism?


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20 Nov 2007, 12:45 am

It doesn't exist.

Those who think it does are deluded and need mental help ASAP.


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20 Nov 2007, 1:58 am

people say that to me a lot. because i was never myself. i knew a certain way to act so i wouldn't get made fun of. but it was horrible because i could never be myself. when i started, people said stuff like that to me.

oh well, there problem not mine. i'm finally content.



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20 Nov 2007, 2:12 am

I do not know, I have heard of non responding in babies, and I have heard of seeming normal development till three, then stopping.

It is the vaccine thing, got their shots at three, an bam. No proven link, but sudden onset at three seems common in reports. Mothers would notice these things. It was also common before vaccines.



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20 Nov 2007, 2:19 am

A lot of the times they can find non-normal development before then if looking closely. One of the major cases in vaccine trials worked like that recently, the parents claimed she had developed totally 'normally' but it was obvious to experts she was autistic from videos before then.

I had not-'normal' development early on but have had skills I gained and lost a number of times in my life. I think there's reasons for that and I'm hesitant about calling it regression. (There are parts of typical development that involve losing skills without being called regression after all.)


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20 Nov 2007, 2:25 am

I think your born with any form of ASD. You can't contract it or develop it.


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20 Nov 2007, 2:52 am

Something like CDD?

There are environmental factors that can cause the umbrella term "autism" in individuals, I don't see why a virus can't damage certain parts of the frontal lobe for example (they say it can), OCD is similar.

If we're talking about vaccines and stuff, I had the typical convulsions from them, but I displayed autistic traits before then (lack of eye contact for example).



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20 Nov 2007, 3:44 am

Not much real knowledge?

I was born in 1945, One bomb in New Mexico, two in Japan, then I was born. Guess what got blamed?

The less scientific, in the small town deep south, knew Demonic Possession when they saw it.

Fifty years later calling it AS.

Nothing yet convinces me beyond a reasonable doubt.

Too much variation, too broad of symptoms.

One thing I am sure of, I have WP, I never understood any group of people before I came here.

I always called it Scorpio Biker Syndrome, that still works for me.

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20 Nov 2007, 4:40 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Something like CDD?

There are environmental factors that can cause the umbrella term "autism" in individuals, I don't see why a virus can't damage certain parts of the frontal lobe for example (they say it can), OCD is similar.

If we're talking about vaccines and stuff, I had the typical convulsions from them, but I displayed autistic traits before then (lack of eye contact for example).


Yeah, I was thinking of CDD too.


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20 Nov 2007, 6:35 am

Danielismyname is right. CDD is the thing. Autism describes things happening before 3Yo!



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20 Nov 2007, 7:03 am

Inventor wrote:
I do not know, I have heard of non responding in babies, and I have heard of seeming normal development till three, then stopping.

It is the vaccine thing, got their shots at three, an bam. No proven link, but sudden onset at three seems common in reports. Mothers would notice these things. It was also common before vaccines.


I believe that's actually Rett Syndrome. Normal development and then almost total regression.


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20 Nov 2007, 7:54 am

ive heard of something (not rett's).... that's described as a sudden relapse into something... dunno whether it's autism.... and it's not even that it lessens... just more of a delayed onset

youve been around here long enough to know that there's no such thing as retrograde autism


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20 Nov 2007, 8:39 pm

CDD and Rett Syndrome are two forms of disintegrative ASDs.



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20 Nov 2007, 8:42 pm

I think that it is a preset condition and that environmental things trigger it at different stages of life for different people. My son who is 14 now was a developmentally normal baby and was in some ways advanced ( he walked at 8 1/2 mo. ) but he had a hole in his heart and at the age of 11 1/2 mo. old he went in to the hospital for open heart surgery and while he was on the table he came out of anesthesia so they had to give him more drugs to put him under again after we got him home from the hospital we notused that he wouldn't talk or make eye contact any more ( he was speaking at age level before the surgery ) as time went on we noticed more and more things that he just couldn't do any more. I think he was hard wired to be this way and the trauma from the surgery triggered it ( I don't know for sure if this is right all I know is that the people like my son are the ones that push the envelope and give the rest of us things to admire and respect with the things they can do because of who they are).



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20 Nov 2007, 9:35 pm

I think the term 'regressive' can throw some people. It means that function is lost and a person that was 5 now functions like a 3 year old in many ways. This loss of function can happen with changes to the brain.

The autism spectrum has steadily been expanding to encompass different conditions. Is this 'regressive' autism the same as other forms? Not exactly. But do the people with it display enough autistic traits be called auties? I think that's possible.



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21 Nov 2007, 4:34 am

monty,

Children with CDD display "normal" development until they reach a certain age and they then lose abilities that they've attained, they then appear autistic (classic autism rather than the milder forms).

Speaking of "regression", I "regressed" at the onset of puberty till now. I functioned quite well in primary school after a couple of years of settling in, from grade 9 till now I've spiraled downwards (whether it's due to the environment or not is up in the air).

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From ages six - twelve the child with autistic disorder may improve, with the disorder returning in full force in the adolescent and young adult years. This eventually calms down in the middle to later years (Wing, 1997).


This describes me quite well.