Can Aspies Have Better Social Skills Than NTs?

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22 Nov 2007, 11:30 am

Yes, I think so.
Most people I've met say I'm very polite (in person, as I'm more elitist and condescending online), whereas a lot of the NTs I know are downright rude (or say things that could be interpereted that way if you don't know them all that well).
But then, of course, I attend a school that people choose to go to out of dissatisfaction with the social environment at other, larger schools, so needless to say a lot of the students there aren't particularly good with people skills.



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22 Nov 2007, 11:41 am

I think it is possible for an Aspie to learn social skills and also it's possible that through that learning, gain a higher level of social skills than many NT's possess.

I think that an NT who specialises in social interactions will still be better at it due to building upon a foundation of hardwired social intuition.

It's possible that many Aspies have better than average (NT) social skills because they've had to work at it, where as the NT's in question just have the default level of skills they were blessed with.

It's also my opinion that while I'm talking about "social skills," that we are refering to the NT social skills. I think Aspies have different social skills or different ways that social skills are manifested, but do in fact have a social skill set just as rich and defined as the NT one.

The difference is that most NT's never learn our social skills, though we learn theirs out of necessity.


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22 Nov 2007, 12:19 pm

emo000 wrote:
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If Autism and Asperger's Syndrome are neurological conditions with impairment in social skills to me it would mean we have to make a conscious effort doing what might come naturally to NTs. But it does not mean we cannot learn them. I have noticed my social skills have gradually gotten better over time.


you cannot learn 'multi-tasking' if your brain is not wired to do so.


Not every aspie has problems multitasking. How can you overlook that? You must be trolling.



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22 Nov 2007, 12:40 pm

Better manners maybe. When I was about 14-16, people used to complente my mother on how polite I was. Now I just get frustrated with people's stupidy and am more likely to do things like or tell them off to make them go away or quit talking.



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22 Nov 2007, 1:57 pm

ev8 wrote:
emo000 wrote:
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If Autism and Asperger's Syndrome are neurological conditions with impairment in social skills to me it would mean we have to make a conscious effort doing what might come naturally to NTs. But it does not mean we cannot learn them. I have noticed my social skills have gradually gotten better over time.


you cannot learn 'multi-tasking' if your brain is not wired to do so.


Not every aspie has problems multitasking. How can you overlook that? You must be trolling.


Yes obviously trolling.
This 'aspie' ( f**k you i have aspergers syndrome - i am not an 'aspie' )
does have problems with multi-tasking.
I didnt overlook the fact that 'they' all do, i assumed people would be knowledgeable enough to realise that not all autistic people are the same. Obviously, its something you have failed to grasp.

You must be trolling :lol:



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22 Nov 2007, 2:16 pm

Probably not "innate" social skills but I do believe that someone who has had to pay extra attention to other people to figure them out, and who has to work harder to keep track of people's interactions, and also who has to intellectually deduce things others do "by gut feeling", can under many circumstances be MORE considerate of other people than most NTs.

In the same vein, I have often found that especially at work my communication problems make me BETTER at communicating in a way, because while I don't do so much orally, I tend to be a lot more precise and detailed (thus not leaving things out, and getting the message across better) when communicating by Email, and tend to be a lot more aware of how important keeping people up to date is.



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22 Nov 2007, 7:37 pm

Aspies will never surpass a NT because they innately have a skill we must learn, atleast when it comes to socializing with another NT.

Remember it works both ways, they dont get us either. Aspies get aspies, NT gets NT. In fact just yesturday I was looking at my proffesor and he asked "do you think I hate you now?" My immediate thought was... so thats what my body language is saying?



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22 Nov 2007, 11:40 pm

emo000 wrote:
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If Autism and Asperger's Syndrome are neurological conditions with impairment in social skills to me it would mean we have to make a conscious effort doing what might come naturally to NTs. But it does not mean we cannot learn them. I have noticed my social skills have gradually gotten better over time.


you cannot learn 'multi-tasking' if your brain is not wired to do so.


I would say it depends on the multitasking and how complex it is. If you have to do multiple tasks, then you concentrate on each individual task as though it were a single task. Though there is a limit when the tasks start to run together.


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23 Nov 2007, 3:20 am

I have very good Social Skills infact today I am going to two parties one this afternoon and another one tonight.



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23 Nov 2007, 3:22 am

MrMacPhisto wrote:
I have very good Social Skills infact today I am going to two parties one this afternoon and another one tonight.


8O

LoL, sorry I just can't belive it if you're Aspie. Are you kidding around?


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23 Nov 2007, 3:28 am

I am pretty good at being social. It helps to know what's going on in the media, because that's alot of what people talk about. Or current events, that sort of thing. I can tell when I'm in a social place though, when I get worn out by it. I kind of feel like, I guess a little anxious, like my system is telling me "That's enough of that for now". It's sort of difficult to explain it.

I have been a remarkable listener, and I think this might be a unique trait to Aspies since we tend to be shy. So you might be able to have more of a insight on something, because you really listen to the person. Where with some NTs, it's like both people in a conversation are talking at once, and nobody really is listening to what anyone has to say.


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23 Nov 2007, 3:47 am

I'm only mild aspie meaning it only comes out more when I'm stressed or something at the moment I'm alright and yes I'm going to two parties today first I got roped into going the other one is with work collegues but I will socialising the best of my abilities.