In what countries are aspies more likely to pass as normal?

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Japan would be a very bad place for Aspies. In Japanese society conformity to the "norms" of society is much more ingrained than over here. Students who are perceived as "different" in primary and secondary school will be singled out and bullied. Someone said that New Zealand was the best place for Aspies.

Not France... or anywhere else catholic and family oriented... England is pretty good, we have a grand tradition of emotional remoteness amongst men and value our eccentric inventors more than most places......

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I wouldn't know about Canada, though except for the winters it doesn't sound bad. I suppose France would be good if you're white - not so good if people mistake you for an Algerian, as was my experience in Paris.
Sorry if my posts are a bit contrarian (in proportion to time spent in a place, where i have experienced the most racial discrimination was France, where least, Scotland).

Australia, because no one knows what aspies are.

That's perfectly fine, we're brainstorming our ideas here.

Yes, it's probably one of the better places. Probably some other anglo-saxon countries are good too.

Germans are known for being aloof, punctual, perfectionists, etc... Everything I USED to be. From what I have heard though, things have changed. Then again, Hitler wasn't the German ideal, regardless of what he may have thought, and a lot of germans put up with him.

As for the french, they seem to be a bit of a wildcard, but some MUST be far from accepting.

most cultures have a social structure, i think. the nomads of tibet wich i love do. it would be intresting to see what kind of mental illness or autism - like disorders in that culture was like, and how they deal with them. if they exist at all

Hell yeah! This is the only remaining landmass on earth with bits that are unclaimed by humans.

I'm saving up for a SSTAR; after I can afford one, I'm going to move to Antarctica, and set up my own country; once I have power, I can design everything else to be self-sustaining, and build out from there. Anyone wanna chip in for the SSTAR?

Good fortune,

- Icarus will be a king by his own hand in time, just like Conan...

I think France and Japan. The Chinese are scarily NT. I mean they are SOLIDly NT and they take that for granted. I agree that the Japanese can spot something different but I have a theory that for some reason Aspies were allowed to form some of their culture. It's the only thing that makes sense. Plus the Japanese ALWAYS listen to me and digest it but more often the Chinese are coated in too many layers of how things have always been and they dismiss me or don't take me seriously. I think the Chinese culture is really NT. The Koreans? I think they are NT in that they are smooth operators but their culture incorporates some aspie traits like blockheadedness. I think the Filipinos are super NT and I think that aspies wouldn't survive long without some special dispensation.

I'm not sure about the Germans. I think they would have dissected us in the camps. I think the English with their eccentrics might be a pro Aspie culture.

I agree about the Japanese penchant for school bullying but I guarantee that in NT Chinese culture, they would do the same thing BUT I think the Japanese style would mean an aspie like me could survive better because a lot of the downfall depends on the target taking the attacks personally and then doing their dirty work for them and that is really unlikely in my case.

disorder is such a bad word in todays world but i'd still look to natives and nomads

Take me to Germany.
:jumps in a wooden box marked "Germany, Europe":
All ready to go!

dude, some aspies are chronically sloppy and not robotic at all; how would those types of aspies survive the Germans? Ach!

I know the topic is about passing as opposed to flourishing or surviving but I would also like to add one other thing about Japanese bullying and that I think my chances of having someone step in to stop it as opposed to rubbernecking are BETTER in Japan than in China despite the moral issues I have with Japan. I don't know why but it is someone I have noticed about the Chinese and their self interest even though there are many lovely Chinese. This is my prediction of my personal situation not an assessment of the societies in general for everyone or for all aspies. I think when I was little I noticed some things in people's faces that made up my mind about the lay of the land.

Korea.
I lived in Korea for a couple years and would still if I didn't have to be an indentured servant to work there--your boss owns your visa.
Although Koreans are very social and conforming they expect all foreigners to be strange so all strangeness was attributed to my being American and forgiven. They also love telling you what to do to fit in and adapt so all that stuff is explicit and doesn't have to be badly quessed.
They admire intelligence.
The one thing they couldn't fathom is that I liked being alone.
They are very kind, helpful people.

Speaking of China, I saw in tv about an English aspie that loved Chinese culture, spoke fluent Chinese, had a Chinese girlfriend and had visited China. The reasons he gave are that mathematics (his obsession) is more respected there than in the West, and his oddness wold be attributed to his foreignness. On the other hand, from what I've seen Chinese culture seems more tribal than most - notice how the Chinese in the West tend to hang out together and form a solid clique far more than other foreigners? Maybe China is a good place for non-Chinese aspies (esp. those with an impressive command of Chinese and engaging in pursuits well-regarded in Chinese culture) but not for Chinese ones, who would have no 'excuse' for not fitting in?
Being in a foreign culture is a double-edged sword: on the one hand, many of your oddities can be blamed on cultural differences, but on the other hand this can also create a barrier - I don't just mean actual discrimination, but simply that they don't know where you stand on certain things or how to approach certain subjects, etc. Plus, you yourself are even more clueless what the protocol is for certain things (for example, i have no problem with physical contact in my country because i know exactly what the protocol is, elsewhere i end up avoiding it because i'm not sure when it is appropriate) I find that here i usually socialise more easily with other foreigners, even if they're from cultures completely different from my own, even though I like the English (I think definitely a place with many different cultures is easier for aspies). With other foreigners i share the foreignness but without any assumptions that we automatically will connect or belong to the same clique.