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06 Jan 2008, 7:32 pm

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He wants us to conform, so He would probably be an NT.

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God wants us to follow his very basic simple rules and live life as good people, I dont see that as conforming at all just being a decent person. Not trying to sound combative but by your logic if God was AS and did not want people to conform then he would expect people to live life selfishly and be bad people. Thats how I see it anyways...


Sorry I don't want rules to follow.

I believe we created a system of government because we're animals with a higher intellect, in groups we tend to become stupid.


I don't think its conform or you're selfish and a bad person, in fact that would be revolting.

It would mean any artist trying to challenge current trends would be what, speaking from god? adding a new rule to gods little handbook?

Excuse the sarcasm but a being that could see and touch all the universe would really not give a crap how we treat each other, we see ourselves as so important, but do you really think anyone or anywhere else would?

We ARE selfish, there ARE plenty of bad people, and guess what? A lot of them are using the "word of god" as the very basis for selfish acts and prejudice. ie: The churches views on homosexuality.

Wars, poverty, disease, murderers, extinction of most species, this is the result of following the simple rules?

How are we clearly made in the image of something you dont know!?

That makes little to no sense to me at all.


I think if you don't know something, how can you claim it be so?

Isnt that just you making it up?

ie: I say God had no empathy because I have none and I'm made in his image.

Or am I flawed because I'm not the same?

Assumption is humanities greatest flaw, its why we're talking about a "him" anyway, as if all creation and destruction would have a sex.

Man and Woman, night and day, life and death, these are the things that create motion, these are the things that are divine.


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09 Jan 2008, 12:12 pm

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I always find it odd, the way NTs conceptualise 'heaven', they hope it has the same social set up as their world: families, spouses, human bonds, ugh.

That aint my idea of heaven. quite the opposite.


My idea of heaven would be a world of holodecks where I could interact with my favorite fictional characters.


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09 Jan 2008, 1:15 pm

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And does he judge us according to NT values?


Having recently seen the film, "Lassie come Home", I would say that just as the emotional beauty of that dogs love for, loyality too, and determination to endure great hardship in order to return to its master, is the same thing God looks for and enjoys about us, not how good we are, but are faith and Love of God.

I would think Aspies might have an advantage over NTs in this regard as we dont think too much of ourselves in the way NTs do, and we feel we dont fit in so well to this world so wont feel so keen to hang onto it when Gods had enough of its selfish wickedness.



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09 Jan 2008, 2:21 pm

Am I the only one that find such anthropomorphic/anthropopathic questions offensive?


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10 Jan 2008, 9:15 pm

As in the topic itself?

I don't find it offensive, I find it unanswerable.


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10 Jan 2008, 9:31 pm

If the Bible is anything to go by "God" is quite a wrathful and vindictive being.

I belive that most gods of most religions through the ages had at least a little basis on real people that lived, being old kings or villages of people that were the progenitors of our race. Although this thought is most likely incorrent i like to think that it may be true in some sense. Therefore all gods of any religion can fall foul to both the good and bad aspects of human "leadership". That said most would drown in the power drug and become quite nasty and manipulative.

If gods did exist as all powerful etheral beings then i think they would fall foul of the same process of being consumed by thier own ego.



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10 Jan 2008, 9:40 pm

I always thought all the stories were metaphors for ego and leaving others behind, the mountain of olives representing the journey alone to face "god" or yourself. The moral being if you can believe in yourself you'll find those you can truly help as opposed to fighting uselessly. Anyway, I explained that terribly, not that I care much, it seems now all interpretation has become just as valid.


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10 Jan 2008, 9:48 pm

Mindtear, that's well put. Maybe that's why I never believed in religion, because it looks so man-made to me and gods are such a pecking order figure.


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10 Jan 2008, 9:55 pm

Yup we can't comprehend infinity, let alone create it, so how do we believe we can define infinity? We can't.


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10 Jan 2008, 9:58 pm

I found that most of the polytheisic gods seem more mortal-man like than the later organised religions. The texts and sagas from those religions never hid the bad aspects of thier gods personalities either, this to me made them more human. Gods that people could truely relate to.



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11 Jan 2008, 12:25 am

:lol: Hmm. I think the gods of organized religions are undeniably NT. Only an NT could come up with something as discombobulated as organized religion.

Then again, if there is a creator he/she/it probably has AS. The creator of the universe obviously likes structure. The laws of nature are very neat and orderly.



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11 Jan 2008, 11:56 am

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11 Jan 2008, 12:24 pm

Doesn't make eye contact

Is prone to melt downs (The great flood)

Does not do "small talk"

Has "Savant" abilities

Is very misunderstood

Sounds like an NT to me. :wink:


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11 Jan 2008, 12:33 pm

Mindtear wrote:
If the Bible is anything to go by "God" is quite a wrathful and vindictive being.

I belive that most gods of most religions through the ages had at least a little basis on real people that lived, being old kings or villages of people that were the progenitors of our race. Although this thought is most likely incorrent i like to think that it may be true in some sense. Therefore all gods of any religion can fall foul to both the good and bad aspects of human "leadership". That said most would drown in the power drug and become quite nasty and manipulative.

If gods did exist as all powerful etheral beings then i think they would fall foul of the same process of being consumed by thier own ego.


Exactly Mindtear, and very astute.

Here is what the Bible says about the "god" who was put in charge of the Earth :-

"13 You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
ruby, topaz and emerald,
chrysolite, onyx and jasper,
sapphire, [b] turquoise and beryl. [c]
Your settings and mountings [d] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.

14 You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.

15 You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.

16 Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, O guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.

17 Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;