Are you treated as a homosexual, even if not, by NT's?

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I'm bisexual, as they say, so the assumption that I am heterosexual is just as inaccurate as the assumption that I am homosexual. I have no idea what people really think about my sexuality, but sometimes I suspect that NTs tend to think I am a repressed lesbian living a straight lifestyle, in complete denial, or something.

I've been told people think I am. The missus' friends (upstate Oregon), note I don't care about sports, don't hunt, and aren't very agressive. But I'm too much of a horn dog to be mistaken for 'the road less traveled'..

I think that the poll should have been somehow redone. Like have one on your sexual interests instead or have one that clearly asks if you are treated as being gay.

Something like:

Are you treated as being gay by NTs?

1. Yes, but I am gay.
2. Yes, but I'm treated as I am gay.
3. No. They know something is problematic, but no one accuses me or thinks that I'm gay.
4. No. They know that I'm not gay.

The other could be:

What is your sexual preference?

1)Straight, heterosexual
2)Homosexual
3)bisexual
4)Neither, no real interest in sexual matters or reproductive matters. (My uncle is like this.)
5)Just masterbation.

In that case, I'm a cross between 4/5.

I'd like to think I'm #1, but I just can't shake #5.

Back when I was in high school, everyone thought I was gay, for some reason. I admit- I have a very high-pitched voice( in fact, I can do a dead-on impression of Michael Jackson, and I'm white), and never cared much for sports. Of course...having skipped around in the grass as a little kid really didn't help convince anyone else that I was straight..

Back then of course, no girl would touch me with a ten foot pole. Granted, when I lived in NJ, no one would touch me with a ten foot pole, in terms of the opposite sex. Like I said, my girlfriend chose ME- 'course I had to move out to Ohio to find her, but I regret nothing.

And even still, I'm more interested in a committed relationship than sex( though yes, I do masturbate).

Pauls inner child - me too, I can't dance because I've got two left feet and am far too clumsy (no rhythm)

Fsenseman - handflapping me too! (My wife/ partner has asked me if I was gay too on a couple of occassions).

Oscuria - life sucks, not this poll!

TLPG/Griff - My opinion is that really we are sexless as beings (spirits) and that sex is an act (basically false and done to fit in (no jokes please), which is why macho men attack anything different because it challenges the basic lie of who they are and the reason they are blind to our sexuality or otherwise is that basically they are don't recognize who they are either, so how the hell are they going to make sense of us!) and it doesn't matter who you do it with or why. When I'm acting with free energy, I move fast and this leads to me wiggling instead of moving slowly because I'm on the defensive and suppressing my own actions. Likewise high voices come from the same free energy (light energy as opposed to dark matter). I'm writing a book on my observations of NT's and life on this starange planet called 'Empty Thoughts from an Empty Head', which I'm sure will sell like cold, hot cakes but that is because Aspies are considered undiplomatic (The little boy in The Emperors New Clothes) and humans are so laughably stupid (gullible/ open to manipulation because of their fears and hopes - opposite sides of the same coin).

I forgot something - that is we are 'terribly' receptive. This translates as everything is too much for us - hence we retreat from the world and give the impression that sex is too much for us (The first time I attempted 'orbital re-entry', I couldn't stand the intensity of feeling it awoke in me): Hell everything is too much for us, let alone sex - I didn't get migraines for twenty odd years because I was a homosexual but because I couldn't stand the noisy output that comes from brainless NT's trying to block out all their own thoughts and the input of others. In the words of Three Dog Night, when these 'people' try to explain their behaviour as enjoyment - all I can say is 'Liar. Liar. Liar!'

I've stopped doubting myself and gone back to doubting these Monkeys have the option on truth. Humans - I hate them. They can get back up their trees and stop throwing their excreta at me (read Jonathan Swift's 'Gullivers Travels' and see what he says about the Houinyms or whatever he calls him - by their behaviour you'll know them as Christ implied (another one like us I should imagine or Vincent Van Gogh 'Starry, starry night' fame).

We have to get them out of our heads and regain internal peace, by doubting their existence and acknowledging ours as I say (No internal, infernal voices: See Tempy thread on Hearing Voices). Why should we imprison ourselves to fit in with their childish fears? It's time they grew up, not us.

*votes the bottum one* Occasionaly people think I'm gay looking. I don't care what they think about that though. They certainly don't rule over my sex life, that's for sure. Sometimes I think, "Do I look that butch that guys avoid me?" I want to look a little that way, just not as an ugly female.

The reason why I believed your poll sucked is that it didn't make sense to me. If I were to ask "Do you like Motorcycles?" and then put options of cars, you'd say something similar. Also, life doesn't suck. Not at all. I enjoy life, even if I am constantly cursing things.

On your belief that we are sexless, I can agree with that to an extent. The soul, spirit, whatever you want to call it, is not a being, it is something that just is. It doesn't have a gender so how can it be homosexual/heterosexual?

I don't agree with you that we only have sex to fit in or to put on a show (I think that's what you meant...?). It is an animalistic desire. Some can control it, others can't. I'm not going to bother to explain as it would get into a philosophical/metaphysical discussion. No point in doing so.

I definitely do not agree with you on your "macho" assertion. I don't like homosexuality because I just don't find it acceptable. So in that sense, I pretty much try to remove myself from any situation which may be considered homosexual. I don't think I've ever been called homosexual that didn't come with sarcasm, I pretty much criticize others on their homosexual actions (sarcastically or not). I do admit that homosexuality, the form where one is actively aggressive to a gay or lesbian person is unacceptable. Oh well.

yeah well.. our brains work very differently from nt males. ive had gay nt's who think im gay come up to me many times before, never had straight men think im gay though. most women i know say that "im different" from most men (whatever that means)

tbh, i don't get along with most nt men, their kinda ape like.

Another thing - check out competitors in The Olympic Walking Marathon - you can't help but walk a particular way if you speed up your pace, that's the science of the bones and musculature of the body, the way things work.

The problem is not our behaviour but the sexist way it is interpreted by those projecting their own fears and insecurities onto us (See the confusion of youth when we all move to some degree from asexual children, to sexual adults).

One in ten of us is at genius level, where it is only one in a hundred of them - yet they want to sabotage this resource because they haven't the guts to deal with the percentage that are too sensitive to life, to function well in this society at all. They'd rather keep alive their own primitive kind tham take advantage of what intelligence we have to help them solve their problems: Gentic end of line for us by Government/ Science who supposedly want to 'help' us as they want to help Downs Syndrome children and Hitler and Mengele etc. did with their 'untermensch' (Not just Jews, Gays, Gypsies and dissenters but the disabled, mentally and physically).

Science is about studying and conserving something, so it's their to study - politics (fear) is about trying to wipe it out because it isn't seen as useful but a threat or more trouble than its worth, to preserve it.

Yeh, I've had that too - women think I'm different like aliens are different and yeh, I agree about most males being apelike - it makes me laugh how much they think that should count for something special and it doesn't!

Thanks for giving me more detail. As for sex being more animalistic - I personally think of it like champagne effervescence bubbling out and I mean the energy, not the act. As for having to do it, no I don't think that you can't control it but that the reward (pleasure) makes you do it (See experiment in the sixties where monkeys had a choice of eating or pressing a button that fed their pleasure centres in the brain, via an electrode - they nearly starved to death but it isn't sex it's addiction and you can see that in all kinds of areas and this is just one - do get into a philosophical argument on this because it's about the underlying motives for things I want to discuss).

Tha 'macho' assertion wasn't mine but pointing out how NT's behave towards Gays and us because of their assumptions about what we are. I am not pro or anti anything from that respect, just trying to understand what is going on. I am sorry if you misunderstood what I was on about and it wasn't clear enough for you to understand.

As for the show bit, what I mean is the denial that some gays/guys put on because they want to fit in, want to be accepted as normal (girls too I assume). How this is reflected in society can be seen by last weekends edition of The Mail on Sunday - in the health section of the paper was featured The Kirwin family, who eventually came to terms with having a Downs Syndrome child and it shows in the picture of the family as a close knit group, whereas in The You Magazine supplement was a review of The Hollander family, who gave away their their learning disabled child and the photo of them shows a totally dysfunctional group, shattered by their own fears and prejudices (Frightened daughter in the background/ angry minx to one side/ mother with arm over disabled child like it's a sack of potatoes and father who's eyes contradicts the smile on his lips, showing he would rather not be there: The mother wrote a book on this subject and it makes out that she is a hero for giving her child away because her husband didn't want it, rather than the obvious coward she is (in denial)).

By the way as someone said once "Sex sucks, if you're doing it right". As for life it sucks and blows - you have your highs and you lows, and if you deny that you're lying to yourself as well as to other people or you're not very observant about your life.

As for not making sense of this post - that's something I can't really do anything about, unless you explain yourself more fully and even then not necessarily (The problem is in your mind and the level it's working at compared to where I'm coming from and there may not be enough common ground for us to resolve our differences but we can try by going into more detail to see where the misunderstanding/ failure to understand, lie if you want: Work on your side/ work on mine)

Last edited by paigetheoracle on 07 Mar 2008, 8:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

I think we got on better with women/ our mothers (if we're male) because women aren't such bullshitters as men are.

Another thing about the question of sexuality in general and the confusion that arises is I believe because we are spiritual beings and can carry memories of who we were in previous lives, across to this one (a being in a body that is male, still identifying with a last life time lived as a female and vice-versa: This I believe can lead to gender identity problems and lead to transexuality or homosexuality role playing - that's the theory any).

There is also another take on this in that over time (millenia) I believe males soften into females and females harden into males as they react to what life throws at them. This may sound far fetched but consider how partners living together, take on each others identity over time (opposites attract and over time exchange lives with each other - this may be love in action (acceptance) as hate is repulsion from a particular identity or being (rejection) and the attempt to preserve another one: Islamic extremists as opposed to those that blend in).

Honestly, I've been erroneously labeled as such, supposedly from the fact, I don't have any girlfriends and I don't act like Don Juan in some people's eyes still, I simply realize that there will always be persons whom will demonize you for whatever reasons more or less of an ignorant basis..
Well, I try to remain hopeful of having a girlfriend..