Question About Eye Contact
wo interesting things about eye contact:
1. Some little boys(Some even "grow up" doing this!) Have STARING contests! There is even a commercial here for some communication company showing americans and japanese doing this via CCTV!! !! ! The goal is to stare AS LONG AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT BLINKING! The last one to blink wins.
2. Humans are perhaps the only primate to not take such contact as a CHALLENGE! DON'T try this with another primate!
To the original question, it's okay (can be awkward or difficult, but only occasionally) looking into eyes of the few folks to whom I'm close, with whom I'm familiar & feel safe. Everyone else scares me, so I try to avoid their eyes-after meeting their gaze once in passing (since it seems obligatory). Growing up, no one ever mentioned anything about my eye contact (or lack thereof), so I haven't any insight there.
I can look people that I find to be nice in the face even, I can look at their hair, their clothes... you get the idea.
Mean people become ugly to my eyes, and nice ones get better looking-not an absolute, but to some extent perception can be influenced/modified this way. Bad experiences can lead one to come to loathe the mere appearance (visual representation/depiction) of an object, event, or person.
Just like I listen to music I like & read books that interest me, I look at & spend time with people I like (both visually & mentally/emotionally). Those I dislike I "excommunicate", exile them from my attention, don't speak of or to them, don't look at them. I just cross them out in my mind because I will never forgive them (that's what I did to my grandfather with the bad temper, when I was 12).
My emotions/thoughts can be transparent (visible in my facial expression) but made more of by an external person than I ever intended to convey. Seems as if other people amplify, in their own minds, what they perceive as my reaction. Am not trying to be offensive or rude, yet have often been hassled in past by authority figures, accused of "having a chip on my shoulder" (could never understand what that was supposed to mean or what I could do about it) & "an attitude"-which also confused, baffled-and did not help me.
That's a big-time predicament I have. I can see fine up close, but far away, I need glasses-so I have to wear them when I go out, then I feel even more vulnerable & visible (seeing & being seen, or being made even more aware of these).
In junior high school, I had staring contests with other students-can't recall whose idea it was. Admit it wasn't classic/strict staring, because I had to blink my eyes-but in terms of holding a "straight face" & unvarying expression, I usually won/held out the longest. FYI, in post you mention males doing this-but I'm female. Upon reflection, think I probably played against more males in the staring contests than against females. Huh.
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Belfast - I too have had some issues with authority figures, primarily male authoritarian types. Once I vented my frustration at this to my husband, whom asked me to show him the way I look at my supervisors/bosses.
He said that whether or not I intended to, my very posture and facial expressions, while in my opinion serious and ready for action, could in fact be interpreted as a chip on the shoulder.
Plus, I ask questions. That, I have learned the hard way, does not help.
happyheather912
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For me, it depends on how close I am to the person. My fiance and close friends don't bother me at all with eye contact or physical closeness (I enjoy hugs from them very much!) but eye contact and someone standing close to me makes me VERY uncomfortable if they are strangers.
Especially men. I have no idea why.
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i agree with jeyradans points very much - good description!
as for me... yeah, it tends to be easier with people i know well. that odd feeling of eye contact, somehow vulnerable and deep-shaking, is a bit easier when i know that i dont have anything to be afraid of that person.
another point that i recently thought about: do you have problems with photos of people that could replicate a situation of intense eye contact? i was quite surprised that i dont have the slightest problem with photos. made me wonder what exactly triggers that feeling of uneasiness.
Is the kind of eye contact I just described "good enough"?
Social workers can be such idiots. They jump to conclusions, claim to be knowledgeable but really aren't and more often than not, they're dead wrong.
Enough said.
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I find things to do, and to gesture at and talk about while I'm talking to someone to make avoiding eye contact seem more natural. When I know it's been getting long enough since I looked, I tend to fixate on one eye (usually the right) and narrow my focus, to avoid the awkward uncertainty of what's "in the eyes," just long enough, and keep talking... concentrate... long enough, look away, repeat, etc. A glance will usually suffice, too
I can actually look someone IN the eyes if I'm accustomed to dealing with them and like them, but not for very long, (maybe a second) not if I'm tired out, and I certainly don't get any kind of unconscious idea about what's going on with them. I just try it out now, sometimes. If I'm caught by surprise, eye contact threatens to jerk me out of the flow of what I'm saying/doing for a bit. It's like an all-consuming distraction.
I can also FORCE myself to just stare into someone eyes. Nobody really likes that, though.
Again, I'm undiagnosed and unsure whether all of the symptoms apply to me, but this is my experience.
Generally I don't care for sustained eye contact. Eye contact feels very unnatural and I'm generally uncomfortable with the feeling. I don't mind it so much with family and close friends, but it really depends on how stressed I am at the time. I have trouble maintaining eye contact with coworkers and acquaintances on a good day. I'll make quick eye contact when beginning a conversation or when asked a direct question but my eyes will invariably slide to the lower left or off over their shoulder. This is a problem, because I know from reading articles about body language that when a person looks to the lower left during conversation it is believed to be a signal that they are lying, and I'll become even more stressed thinking that they will think I'm lying to them. I can also make eye contact naturally with my professors during a lecture, especially in my favorite classes, but have more difficulty when speaking to them personally. Strangers can just forget it. On a good day, I'll make a quick glance at their eyes because I know it's expected, then I'll find something else to look at, usually the ground. With business associates, I walk and talk a lot. It's a good coping strategy and looks natural, like I'm just really busy.
Patricia
I can make eye contact with people I trust, but not for more than a few seconds. I keep feeling it's something only lovers should do. is gaze into each other's eyes.
So I feel rather self conscious. And I can't think or listen well, if I'm worried about how much eye contact to make. The time it's important for me, is authority figures, such a police officers, because they are trained to be suspicious of people who don't look them in the eye. So, I tend to look them in the eye and put on my best possible NT emulation. Fortunately this is only necessary for a few minutes. And I often come away not remembering the conversation at all.
In uncomfortable situations, or people who I don't like, even if they are only on TV, I can't look at the people in the eyes or their facial expressions. I have to look away.
Even in real life, if they ask me to look at them, I have great difficulty doing so, and feel angry when people try to make me. This was troublesome in school.
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I fake eye contact with most people (focus on a point NEAR the eyes like the rims of glasses or between the brows). I told my partner I do that and she said I better never do that with her. We have a sort of ritual where we'll lie face to face and I'll look in her eyes as long as I can. I think it's easier with her actualy because she can only look at me with one eye at a time (she has vision problems) but also because I'm comfortable with her. Although after a while I start to blink a lot.
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I have trouble with eye contact. I can usually look at someone for a few seconds but I quickly become uncomfortable. Eye contact is so hard to maintain and if you dont do it people either think you are lying or not really listening to them. I had this problem in college when I would have to explain things to my professors like excuses sometimes they would not believe me because I couldn't look them in the eye for very long, at least thats how I felt. It is easier to look someone in the eye if they are family or I know them really well, but for others I try to pick a spot on the wall about where their eyes would be so that they think Im looking at them.
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