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Shelby
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25 Apr 2008, 1:11 am

SpokaneGirl: Yeah I saw your topic but didn't respond because I don't know you or if you behave like a troll or not, so can't judge you. From what I've seen of you you're not, so don't worry about those who are...like D1nk0. Swearing and carrying on the way he does is trollish behavior. I don't give a damn who is frustrated, there is no need to abuse people, swear, and shove your opinion down people's throats. He also has no right to tell us what to call ourselves and call us childish. He's also hijacking the thread and making it a discussion about autistic/autie/autist when that's not what this is about. That's troll behavior. So I stand by my comment.

DeaconBlues: Oh well said, "person with maleness"...."person with extra melanin" ROFLOL!! !! !! !! :lol: Oh I'd love for you to make that post over at Oprah.com!! ! Can I quote you, if you don't want to go there yourself?

nory: I agree with everything you have said. Yeah I avoided using race as an example for that reason and stuck to homosexuality, which estrella says is "not valid" but I think a perfect example of how an oppressed group can call attention to themselves and become more accepted. I haven't read that article in O but I think I don't want to. I want to see her focus on some happy autistics who are living well...there are a few people, like the guy who wrote "Look me in the eye" and the one who wrote "born on a blue day."

But yes, if you wanted to use race as an example I'd love to say to Oprah: "How would you like a "cure" that would make you white? If being black is really so difficult in America, surely life would be so much easier if we turned all black people white?" Then maybe she'd see our point.

We're not autistic we're awetastic and they just need to shut up and recognize it!! !!



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25 Apr 2008, 11:01 am

I've also seen bigotry on somethingawful.com, though it's specifically targeted at aspies.



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25 Apr 2008, 11:07 am

Who cares what Oprah groupies think. They are all drones anyway



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25 Apr 2008, 11:11 am

We should all become members at the somethingawful website and say something awful about the members there, who discriminate against us.


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25 Apr 2008, 12:10 pm

People that aren't autistic are so freakin' ignorant. They only attack us to boost their own egos. :evil:


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25 Apr 2008, 12:16 pm

Shelby wrote:
After Oprah did a show recently on autism, I visited the forum at her website. There is a whole section just for autism, which is great to see. What surprised me though, is there are some people there who are completely bigoted against us auties. One in particular, has an intense hatred for autistic people and wants a cure to wipe us all out. She says we are arrogant, and that our lives are hell. She's even visited THIS site, just to read here and make hateful comments about us on the Oprah site!! !

I think a few of us need to get over there and defend ourselves. Let's speak up for ourselves and our fellow auties who cannot speak. I can't believe this kind of hatred exists toward us. We auties have so many positives, gifts and abilities.

Here's the link, it's easy to join up:
http://www.oprah.com/community/communit ... iscussions


In my opinion, Jenny is only a celebrity, what she think is not 100% reality based. Most celebrity do get into divorce more than people who are not celebrity. I think movie and TV shows turn off their reality check.



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25 Apr 2008, 12:20 pm

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We should all become members at the somethingawful website and say something awful about the members there, who discriminate against us.


Cockney Rebel, are you a member of somethingawful?

Someone made a thread in the forum and I am not sure what they said about me but it related to my YouTube video.

Opinion can be controversal but if it posted on a 100% lie, say something bad, and rumor then I don't want any part of it. So I am now a victim of someone who have a opinion about me.



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25 Apr 2008, 2:13 pm

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We should all become members at the somethingawful website and say something awful about the members there, who discriminate against us.

I'll have none of that.

I don't troll forums for any reason.


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25 Apr 2008, 2:37 pm

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CockneyRebel wrote:
We should all become members at the somethingawful website and say something awful about the members there, who discriminate against us.

I'll have none of that.

I don't troll forums for any reason.


Hey, suit yourself pal :wink:



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25 Apr 2008, 2:55 pm

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DeaconBlues: Oh well said, "person with maleness"...."person with extra melanin" ROFLOL!! !! !! !! :lol: Oh I'd love for you to make that post over at Oprah.com!! ! Can I quote you, if you don't want to go there yourself?

Feel free - I have no intention of going someplace I've never been interested in, just because they don't want me there. I figure that way, I and the haterz are both better off. :)


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27 Apr 2008, 1:47 am

DanteRF: Well I disagree about people at the Oprah forum being drones, I enjoy her show and don't consider myself a drone. Her forum is visited by a huge number of people, much more than this site and many of them have a lot to contribute. The autism board is actually very informative, whether you like Oprah or not. The forum has very little to do with Oprah, it's divided into sections on various issues. What I didn't want to see was one person, mainly this estrella person, spreading her hatred onto a board that is visited by so many. My little campaign here worked, because enough autism supporters came over and spoke up that estrella was forced to eat her words and apologize. So well done Wrong Planeters!

Bopkasen: I agree with you, but unfortunately the world loves celebrities and will always listen to them over any normal person. We didn't see two regular moms of autistic kids, we saw two celebrities because people will pay more attention, just like we see Britney Spears every time she goes to rehab but not some other drunken mom who got her kids taken away and I'm sure there are thousands of them. I didn't like Jenny or Holly, but they got more attention than any of us ever would.

Cockney_Rebel: You don't need to go to that site and say something awful, but if you want to go over there and try to defend us like I did at Oprah.com, then go for it!



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27 Apr 2008, 5:24 am

Trolls will be trolls... :x You can't change someone's opinion or open a closed mind...

The best anyone can do is give positive insight in a non confrontational way and hope it will benefit the more open minded members.

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27 Apr 2008, 5:52 am

Hmm, I wouldn't say that MJIthewriter. If you choose your words right, sometimes another person will see your point of view. If we'd all gone over and abused this woman, we'd have made the autistic community look bad. Instead we pointed out that she was being bigoted, and that we autistics are not the miserable ret*ds she seemed to think we were. She really seems to be changing her tune if you visit the forum!! I'm very pleased because that forum will be visited by a lot of parents who are looking for info for their autistic kids. I don't want them to read her crap and be influenced, I want them to see the positive words of people who are walking in their children's shoes. What could be more positive for a worried parent of a newly diagnosed child, than to see happy and successful autistic adults who are proud of their condition.



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27 Apr 2008, 8:22 am

Shelby, I want to go on and post something, but I can't... It won't let me log on... I get an error. Okay I'm trying IE and now I can create an account but my computer is dragging. It will take me awhile to psot...
http://tinyurl.com/6floug
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Are you sure your child is recovered? I don't doubt your child has made great progress, but I do worry what if you have made a mistake getting all his diagnoses removed?

Thinking back on my own life I probably could have made a good DAN story. I "recovered" in a lot of ways. I adapted to my world around me. I can become social and indistinguishable from my peers in many aspects… I was mainstreamed with a good IEP plan. I made it through, graduated high school top 10% of my class. Does that remove me from my PDD NOS diagnosis? No it doesn’t.

Even though I look and speak almost in every way as a non autistic person, I still have my hang-ups. Unfortunately because I appear so “normal” I’m running into a lot of dilemmas as an adult trying to get services that could help me live independently. I’m trying so hard to get SSI but keep getting denied because they can’t see past the fact I am highly verbal.

What they don’t see is thrust into new situations, I feel clueless, lost and confused… This gets in the way. They don’t see that I can get so involved into something and forget to eat until I become very hungry and my mood crashes. They don’t see that I need prompting to know when to do things, otherwise I don’t do them. Some would call it laziness, but it isn’t… It is one of the hang-ups with my disability and I’m trying to overcome it, but it would be nice to have support.
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By taking away the diagnoses from your son, you are removing that support from him. Maybe he doesn’t need it now, but you can’t see the future. What if he finds himself where I am at 24, confused, but even more so than I am, because at least I can get some support, knowing I have my diagnosis and that there are a few services out there to help people like me with disabilities. Your son will have nothing. He will be on his own and potentially completely lost…
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Edit: I thnk I have it posted now.



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27 Apr 2008, 8:35 am

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28 Apr 2008, 3:20 am

Great post MJIthewriter! I could have written that myself, I have all the same problems - too verbal but can't function well by myself. I also wondered the same for this poor boy who's been magically cured of autism. I can see him later in life wondering why he is so different.