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Whilst I don't like speaking for people, I know the member RainSong meant that's best not to speak of things if one laces their words with presumptions that may be damaging to the psyche of those who experience these problems. There's nothing wrong with asking questions, and challenging ideas, it's helpful if one does such in a way that cannot be taken as condescending.

Why can't you make such and such, talk in such and such a way, etcetera, is far more courteous.



I don't care how I sound; my communication difficulties arise in actually communicating basic commands/requests in the presence of people, i.e., actually forming the words that ask for the most basic of things. Anyway, I've been making quite a bit of progress at the expense of burning in the melting pot, but that's the price to pay in wanting to function. I have verbal communication difficulties along for the ride, not just nonverbal.

You're certainly NOT the only one! I had people tell me I was stupid, lacked common sense, was a genius and the smartest person they knew. I have had people think I could do a LOT, and people that thought I could far less than I could.

LUCKILY, far more people have told me I was smart, and people that underestimated me did so for stupid reasons. The first one was AGE!

I could only imagine how I might have ended up if someone told me and my parents that I was heavily disabled.

Frankly, I think there should be some punishment for teachers, schools, and doctors that unjustly disadvantage people through such garbage.

People like Daniel might think this stuff was just automatic. My dexterity wasn't that great and some claim the average boy is WORSE! They CLAIM girls are better. Heck, I can do some stuff some NTs think is remarkable. None just happened.

What do you mean?

I was diagnosed with Autistic Disorder last year; I went 25 years of no allowances made at my expense. Which is actually one of the worst things that can happen for individuals with Autistic Disorder [and Asperger's]. Luckily, I had speech therapy when I first started talking at 5, if I didn't have such, I'd still be talking like I was then.

There's studies out there that state treatment in the first several years of life is the most important aspect of improving the functioning level of the individual as it's actually harder to teach adults with ASDs than children as they're developing.

You're not asking questions. You are injecting your beliefs into something you don't understand and implying that Daniel is purposefully being lazy (when, in reality, he isn't being lazy in the slightest, and it's not his choice). You're not learning by doing that.



Cheers. That's what I've been trying to say.



This is not that situations though. If you knew about his past (which he posted after you posted this), you would have seen that he wasn't helped from an early age. You can't make those sort of assumptions, because they're not always right.



Even I can answer that: he can't and he hasn't.



These things happen. My father had multiple teachers tell his parents that he was just stupid, and there was nothing they can do about it. (He's an aspie, but his main problem in schooling was dyslexia.) He got through it anyway; his tested IQ is 195, and he's one of the top engineers in the world. So what others think isn't necessarily right.

At times, people are told they are the ONLY ones with problems, etc... It is a common trick used by doctors, "educators", sales people, and tech support people to get people off their backs. I could tell you lots of stories about such things. At times, I found DOZENS, even HUNDREDS(Sometimes it made the news), when it was claimed to be an unusual event.



DEFINITELY! The one thing EVERYONE agrees is that YOUNG kids have some things a lot easier. Luckily, the brain stays plastic FAR longer than they used to claim, but lack of challenge can triple or quintuple the likelyhood of diseases like alzheimers.

Please can you do some proper research before you decide to make such a comment.

The brain undergoes several changes during the course of development (well into adulthood) and individuals who have suffered brain damage (e.g. unilateral brain damage) as children do make some recovery but their level of development is never comparable to that of their peer-group.

Your comment regarding Alzheimer's Disease is absolute rubbish!

My information by the way comes from my psychology lecturers and credible journals.

It's nice to hear that you had such a positive experience with speech therapy. I'm in the process of becoming a speech therapist right now, and I hope I can make that kind of positive difference in people's lives.

Well, he/she's not totally incorrect. I've never heard those numbers before, but they've done studies showing that people who keep their brains active as they age (ex. teaching, doing puzzles, etc. rather than sitting around watching TV) may develop the organic changes in the brain that usually lead to Alzheimer's without developing symptoms. So they develop the Alzheimer's plaques and tangles that can be seen in autopsy, but cognitively they never displayed traits of Alzheimer's.

Well, I don't want to go through every blasted thing to prove some of this, but....

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/m ... /sec4.html



That is fron the Surgeon General site of the US. Still, what does it matter? Those that are challenged tend to do better over all. I have even noticed that with myself. Even if it makes your earlier life a bit better, and more worthwhile, it is certainly worth it.

And YEP, changes occur. STILL, I heard things about the brain earlier that WERE considered fact, and now are found to not be true.