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09 May 2008, 3:13 pm

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I am on the spectrum, but too high functioning to be Aspergers, according to the shrink that I received my DX from. So yes, it is all related.


Sounds like my son, and I tell people he has an ASD (if it's brought up) or a little bit of autism or high functioning autism like Aspergers.



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09 May 2008, 4:13 pm

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For example: The word "Atheist".
In vernacular, everyday speech, most people interpret the word to refer to a person who believes that there is no god (i.e. a belief, or assertion, of a negative), whereas almost every writer, philosopher, etc. who calls him/her self an "Atheist", actually holds closer to the position that the average person would call "Agnostic" -- (i.e. a lack of belief in a god or gods, but not an assertion of either a negative or positive stance).


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You are certainly right:

a=without
theist=belief in god

Without belief in god

Unfortunately, many believe that "no belief in god" means "belief of no god".

One thing I ALWAYS hated was:

inflammable! What the HELL does THAT mean!?!? in=not! flammable=able to catch fire! So OBVIOUSLY inflammable doesn't mean able to catch fire because, even if it did, they would STILL say flammable because it is clearer, shorter, etc....

YET, inflammable DOES mean flammable! SO, although I would NEVER say "inflammable"(It is a MORONIC word, it is deceptive and gives you NOTHING that a part of it "flammable" would give you.), I have to recognize what it COULD mean. SOME might use it to mean NON flammable though! :evil:

Likewise, atheist has an understood meaning EVEN if it is TRULY incorrect.


Ahahah! I love using the word "inflammable" as an example of the English Language's messed-up syntax. There's actually an old George Carlin joke about that:

"Flammable... Inflammable... and Non-inflammable. Why are there three? Don't you think two words ought to cover that idea? I mean either the thing flams or it doesn't flam."



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09 May 2008, 4:36 pm

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velodog wrote:
I am on the spectrum, but too high functioning to be Aspergers, according to the shrink that I received my DX from. So yes, it is all related.




So what is your diagnoses instead?


Too high functioning to be AS? What does he think AS is, they can't have jobs or something or live on their own and take care of themselves without needing care assistants?


The Doctor in this case is a she with experience in autism via the clinic affiliated with UCSF. I don't know if because of my age I have developed to an extent that she doesn't recognize Aspergers, or if I was always higher functioning than Aspies. Mage suggests that the group she went to might call mine PDD-NOS. As for the Doctor that I went to, there are two others on this board that can relate their experiences with her if they care to. It seems like the standards are not totally standardized at this point. I consider the person I saw to be a good Doctor who was sincere.



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09 May 2008, 6:38 pm

velodog wrote:
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velodog wrote:
I am on the spectrum, but too high functioning to be Aspergers, according to the shrink that I received my DX from. So yes, it is all related.




So what is your diagnoses instead?


Too high functioning to be AS? What does he think AS is, they can't have jobs or something or live on their own and take care of themselves without needing care assistants?


The Doctor in this case is a she with experience in autism via the clinic affiliated with UCSF. I don't know if because of my age I have developed to an extent that she doesn't recognize Aspergers, or if I was always higher functioning than Aspies. Mage suggests that the group she went to might call mine PDD-NOS. As for the Doctor that I went to, there are two others on this board that can relate their experiences with her if they care to. It seems like the standards are not totally standardized at this point. I consider the person I saw to be a good Doctor who was sincere.


I would say that when you claim you are "on the spectrum" that this is construed as less impaired than Aspergers. My son was also considered not impaired enough to be diagnosed with Aspergers. He is PDD-NOS. So, I tell people he has a dash of autism.

Another doctor would like to erase the autism from my son's IEP and call it NLD because he finds autism too restricting a concept for my son and believes he has great potential. Hmmmm.

I think it is definitely open to interpertation.

I"ve heard throught excellent sources that pdd-nos is the preferred dx for kids possibly on the spectrum--this is more common a diagnosis than autism or aspergers. PDD-NOS is even replacing MR in some cases.

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09 May 2008, 10:54 pm

equinn wrote:
I would say that when you claim you are "on the spectrum" that this is construed as less impaired than Aspergers. My son was also considered not impaired enough to be diagnosed with Aspergers. He is PDD-NOS. So, I tell people he has a dash of autism.

Another doctor would like to erase the autism from my son's IEP and call it NLD because he finds autism too restricting a concept for my son and believes he has great potential. Hmmmm.

I think it is definitely open to interpertation.

I"ve heard throught excellent sources that pdd-nos is the preferred dx for kids possibly on the spectrum--this is more common a diagnosis than autism or aspergers. PDD-NOS is even replacing MR in some cases.

equinn


Thanks for that information equinn, my initial belief was that my coping skills had developed to the point that I no longer looked like an Aspie. The quote above, along with some posts from Danielismyname and Mage is bringing me to the idea that the Psychiatrist may have been right on the mark, instead of just close. Aside from not talking to my Kindergarten teacher, the only thing apparent to the adults at home and school was probably excessive shyness.



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09 May 2008, 10:58 pm

It all depends on which concept i am using it in.I generally add autism to stims, and apsergers too random quirks.

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10 May 2008, 9:38 am

i find it harder to use the word "AUTISTIC" , i'd rather use "with aspergers"...coz where 'm from people use "autistic" as a derogatory call name...hard to explain, like how people use psycho in calling someone disparagingly.



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10 May 2008, 9:54 am

I am not sure, as a kid I had some of the classic autism symptoms, but as I got older... many of the habbits I had left me and now I am a general aspie.


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