Do you have a low tolerance for people? Do I?
I give everyone a chance.
If I like someone I give the person more leniency.
If the person makes a huge error and doesn't apologize and keeps repeating it, I don't feel like speaking to the person anymore
If the person keeps making minor rude errors and I don't see the person apologizing and just expects me to still be around...hah it's not going to happen.
Respect is something that is given and earned.
Numbskull.
That is all that ought to be said on this matter, but I will say more:
What the heck are you getting all worked up about a silly thing like birthdays for? I mean why the heck should anyone else bother to record down a silly number for the number of times the Earth has flown around the sun since you first popped into the world? What relevance does that have to ANYTHING?!
It is a stupid thing to bother with, and a stupider thing to lose a friend over.
Admittedly... I am rather biased.
My main reason for not doing birthdays is that what used to be mine is now the anniversary of the day I gave permission for my only real friend and mentor to be euthanised. That sorta thing can sorta sour a day.
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I'm much more upset about being lied to. I was going to make it a joke until he acted mad at me for calling him out on it. I simply said "guess what? you forgot..." and he acts all pissed off at me and starts lying about how I never gave him a chance. But that's his personality, do something extremely rude and then make himself a martyr with his lies. I do believe that would make him a numbskull since he was willing to be nasty to me on MY birthday to cover his own butt. But I welcome everyone's opinion.
Well fine... he sounds like a bit of a pillock too.
Evens on that then?
I actually have a tradition with possibly my only real friend.... that I get her random "unbirthday" presents to make up for the fact that I don't do birthdays. Like she knows full well not to expect anything from me on her birthday, but quite randomly I'll get her sometihng at another time to make up for it.
I just wish she hadn't decided to take Dave as her boyfriend, no matter how awesome a guy he might be in his own right. I'm not allowed to curl up on her lap any more as a result. ._.
You should never tolerate anyone in your life who lies to you. Lying and stealing are two sides of the same coin and I've seen far too much of both - I have literally a zero tolerance policy for that kind of behavior. If someone lies to you once, they will lie to you as long as you know them, about anything, at the drop of a hat. People who lie to you are assuming that you're too stupid to know that they're lying and that's not friendship. Life is too short to have to waste mental energy determining whether the people you should be able to trust with your life, are telling the truth or just f**king with you. Who the hell wants to live in an endless episode of Big Brother?
As for married people having single friends of the opposite sex: see Billy Crystal's observations in the beginning of When Harry Met Sally. They're the naked truth, like it or not.
Hope things adjust out for you, just keep chanting: "This too, shall pass". Obviously this year didn't work out as you'd hoped, so Happy Next Birthday! (Pretty soon you're going to start hoping people will forget them. I tell people I gave them up years ago. Birthdays are like cigarettes - having too many will kill ya).
That's the heart of it really. I can't tolerate people lying to me. When this happened a few days ago it was just deja vous of the past, being lied to by this person. For example, him asking me if he could borrow gas money, and then me catching him at the mall buying a video game, and never paying me back. And being lied to is just the worst thing because you'll never know when to trust this person. I guess I had hoped that it was something he'd mature out of, but obviously he can't. I say can't because I think he probably has some psychological issue. I just know I'm fed up with it. I can't tolerate people lying to me anymore, period.
And gee thanks Soticoto, I'm a numbskull and a pillock eh? Well, you yourself just said you try to make up to your friend for not doing the birthday thing so that is a bit contradictory. And besides why is it so horrible that I like a little acknowledgment from a friend? Everyone has something they enjoy, this being my thing. So if someone is my friend and they know this is my thing I don't think it's too much to ask for them to come through, and not end up trying to be a jacka** by starting a whole argument full of lies. But anyways, this thread is done in my opinion. It's over, done with, time to move on.
Yes. Espicaly stupid people. "What's a meerkat?" Me: Go read a book, moron. "What is it like to have AS?" Me: How should I know. I've been this way since birth so I can't compare it with being normal. People see paint dabs on my clothes and ask "Do you paint?" No, I just rub it on my clothes. Go get some sence people!
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I appear to be one of very few people here who doesn't think that forgetting someone's birthday is that big a deal. Some people are just rubbish at that kind of thing, like some people are perpetually late for everything and some people can't keep secrets. To this day, I don't think my dad can remember the correct date for my birthday more than one time out of three - it doesn't mean he doesn't care, he's just seriously rubbish at remembering dates. Decide whether or not you can live with it. If you're someone who needs everyone to be discreet, organised with dates and endlessly punctual, then don't stay friends with people who aren't. But they don't do it to piss you off - they do it because everyone has faults. If you lay in to them for this kind of fault, they won't change - you'll just end up alienating them, and yes they may well jump into excuses and justifications. I have learned this from long hard experience. I've also been on the receiving end when someone's been furious that I never make the effort to get in touch, or I leave social situations earlier than expected. I may apologise for that, but I'm unlikely to change it.
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Do I look like a freaking people person?
If you don't pay attention to what I'm saying, I might have to determine something like that afterall.
I said he was the pillock.
Your ex-friend.
Don't make me explain myself again. I have enough trouble with mundies taking me the wrong way, without my own kind doing it too.
I have a good will, fair exchange policy with Holly. That is as much as need be said there.
Point is... no matter what it is that you like to do in that respect, or how concerned you might be.... you can't expect anyone else to get it the same way. Your traditions are your own, and expecting too much of other people is a recipe for disaster.
I agree that his lying is something that shouldn't be tolerated.... though his repeatedly forgetting something itself isn't such a problem. No matter how good a friend someone is, they have no real reason to remember things that don't benefit them in some way. It is simply a bonus if they do.
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Well, since you said he sounds like a pillock too I figured you were calling us both pillocks. I do understand what you're saying, there are people out there that aren't good with remembering things and I could accept that. I think maybe I went over the edge with him is that he is a liar, and we've fought over that too many times. I'm almost surprised that I've forgiven him for his never-ending lies. And it's funny because he has said things recently like "I know I used to do stupid things and I'm sorry" as if he was apologizing for lying but never actually admitted it either. So I was willing to accept the apology and move on. But when that whole incident happened where he tried turning himself into some victim, just like he has done in the past when I've caught him lying, as if I was lashing out at him when I really didn't until he started lying, then I just felt like enough is enough. In a way I almost feel relieved that he's out of my life, because in all honesty there more I think about it the more I never really did trust him. And you just can't base a friendship off that. Little lies turn into big doubts in my mind, and I don't like being played for a fool. I'm a little sad that I now am back to square one in a sense because I did enjoy talking to him, but I try to think of it as everything happening for a reason. Not really sure if I do believe that anymore but sometimes good comes from something that might seem bad at the time. Ok now I'm going off on another tangent. Philosophy 101 haha.
Humans are animals too. Don't forget that.
He'll defend himself if he feels threatened.
And mundies tend often to be chronic liars about even the smallest things anyway. They don't have the same dedication to honesty that we do. Setting such standards to them is unrealistic.
That said, that is a key reason I can't tolerate mundies.
They SHOULD learn to be honest, and the fact that they can't just goes to show how defective they are.
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I'm honest to a fault. I guess it's one more thing in the world I can't relate to...dishonest people, and the world is so full of them it disgusts me. That's the area where my low tolerance comes into play. Lying, manipulative, dishonest people are as low as it gets in my eyes. Just the fact that I called someone my friend that fits into any of those categories makes me angry at myself for allowing it. I am wondering how I could be so desperate....*shudders*
I have a zero-tolerance policy with the act, if not the person.
I mean if I detect a mundie lying to me.... even lightheartedly... I will pretend not to have got it. I will actually play dumb until I have forced them to speak the truth.
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