Deep injustice and the NT-world

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Your belief that "NTs" have some magical "equipment" that renders them invulnerable to suffering is childish. Many NT people have endured experiences that left them with scars and damage every bit as profound as your Asperger's/Autism is to you (and in some cases WORSE). No one is "equipped" to deal with being sexually abused by a parent - this is a crippling experience that warps people's minds and causes them to struggle with relationships for the rest of their lives. No one is "equipped" to spend their childhood alone, fighting for survival in a refugee camp. After living like an animal for so many years, he had to re-learn how to be human again - and then found himself blinded, in a strange county, all alone. It would be just as easy for my employee to spend his energy wallowing in self-pity as it is for you. For someone like you to look at a person who has overcome incredible adversity and think that you have the right to try to "bring them down" because they don't happen to have Asperger's or Autism is so pathetic and twisted...you find my sanctimony sickening? Well good, I find your self-pity and petty enjoyment of other people's suffering pretty sickening as well.

Being autistic is just ONE form of predisposition to these ills...an NT who is sexually abused as a child is just as predisposed to self hate, depression and weak-mindedness. An NT crack baby has been dealt just as difficult a hand as an autistic child. I really can't fathom the attitude that being autistic gives one the right to trivialize other people's suffering and indeed deliberately ADD to it.

I'm sorry, but where the hell did I say that I ever tried to bring down those who've faced adversity ?

Your readiness to jump to false conclusions is clear indication that you're a very angry and aggressive individual.

You don't belong in a place of mutual support.

Yeah, the guy on my staff is one of the most interesting peope I know! His name is Dat and he is really an incredible person. But as I said, even less extraordinary people have been dealt some tough hands in life...there are plenty of "NTs" who have had every bit as tough a struggle as folks with Asperger's/Autism.

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I didn't assume anything, I took you at your word. Many NTs have indeed faced great adversity, so yeah, I do find it pathetic that you are walking around looking for opportunities to make their lives harder.

Last edited by Jael on 20 Aug 2008, 12:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No, being autistic is not 'just ONE form of predisposition to these ills'.

It is a unique disability that robs the individual of the necessities to secure the help and support of others - and more significantly, of his own emotional abilities to cope with life's adversities.

Circumstantial and physical disabilities do NOT rob the individual of those capacities, however dramatic they may be.

I would trade my AS for a circumstantial or physical disability EVERY day of the week.

Now go and take your aggression out on someone else.

Your lack of insight, intellectual depth and imagination are tedious and irksome.

No, being autistic is not 'just ONE form of predisposition to these ills'.

It is a unique disability that robs the individual of the necessities required to secure the help and support of others - and more significantly, of his own emotional ability to cope with life's adversities.

Circumstantial and physical disabilities do NOT rob the individual of those capacities, however dramatic they may be.

I would trade my AS for a circumstantial or physical disability EVERY day of the week.

What sickens me is that you style yourself as the champion of the disadvantaged by attacking other people.

I see this as a device that allows you to 'legitimately' vent your anger on other people.

That's what I find so sickening about you.

Now go and take your aggression out on someone else.

Your lack of insight, intellectual depth and imagination are tedious and irksome

wtf. Aspidity?

I sighiditioulsly salute all those compelled to troll back.

Keep on trucking OP

MemberSix, I'm sorry that folks felt the need to put you under attack, and also continued to blatantly disregard those more personal things that you were referring to, as well.

I mostly just feel sort of out-numbered, out-ranked and over-bullied if I'm not very careful. I don't have the skills to compete in that world. People who are so eager to go on the attack or who prematurely judge so quickly do IMO have aggressive and hostile traits. Give them any opening at all and there they are ready to pounce.

I wouldn't say they have it easy, even if they did I wouldn't hold much of a grudge for it, I mean we all have our problems. My issue is that most of mine are caused by NTs isolating and persecuting me simply because my behavior and mannerisms aren't like theirs. This has lead me to develope a steriotype that vast majority of them are closed mined self absorbed egotists that cant even comprihend that there is another valid way of doing things besides theirs. I am of course fully aware this isnt everone and probably not even most, I try to rid myself of this but it is hard when people keep being textbook examples of this. One time in conversation we my aspergers, my step dad said "I dont think you have anything, I think you are just being lazy."

Looking poorly on a particular group of people often happens when said group is responsible for your adolecence being a psychologiical hell, for your average aspie thats what NTs are.

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the OP like many other idots on this site are talking about other human beings, or like they love to sperate them as "nt's" its complete bollocks. I started a thread about not liking the term NT being used.

What a considered, thoughtful and enlightning contributor you are.

So, if there aren't such things as NT's - there can't be Autistics either.

Tell me - are you an Autism-denier ?

I understand that, but do people have to keep using the term on here with every sentence, and write hate threads about them? How come I have HFA and i'm sure there's others, and we don't repeatedly use the term?

whats an Autism-denier?

The original post came across as a bit of a generalisation with the use of the term NT. However as the thread has developed I understand the feelings of the OP and he is quite brave to be so honest, given ...... 'politically correct ideals' and expected ways of thinking about things.
I agree, social difficulties impact hugely, potentially making other problems so much harder to deal with.
A strong family support system can help to create a balance and a strength against the misunderstandings of others.
I got the impression you were speaking of past attitudes member six?

How is it 'pious sanctimony' to point out that being non-autistic does not mean having the equipment to deal with those things, or that those things are trivial. If they were trivial, all those other forms of oppression would have vanished. Sure, among, say, poor people, autistic people will often tend to have even more trouble than usual, but it's also true that, among autistic people, poor people will often tend to have even more trouble than usual, it's not a one-way thing, it's just that there are several ways that oppression can work, and trivializing it in others who experience it is not a good idea.

And there's no piousness or sanctimoniousness in acknowledging that.