AS and Misanthropy

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Well-said!

I had to think for a few days on this thread. Not so much on what to say, but on what not to say. Until I came here, I had no idea on what Misanthropy was -but I relished in my mind about it. Until I knew about AS, I had no understanding why I had the thoughts ans feelings I did towards the human species.

I am a misanthrope - and I like it. I like it for the fact that it feels honest to myself.

Now, the real question is why? Why am I motivated to be this way?

As with most people, I have had my share of pain, guilt, loss, and a host of other things. Some have faded with time, some still linger within the recesses of my soul. Look at what I wrote in my signature. I didn't put that there to show off. I put that there because it is the truth. This place has been a haven for me and I felt I could let some of the real me out here safely and without persecution.

None of the above really answers though why. I think instead of answering the question directly, I will share some of my past. It may be easier for me to transfer the data from my mind to this message that way.

After I got out of the military, I was bitter. Bitter because I felt I had failed in it. It was something I had high hopes for (tried twice to get into three of the service academies), but the reality was a huge let down. I also got my first taste of abuse in the service and corruption. I was disgusted by it all. I held on to all this for years -and it had an effect on me.

From the military I went into college. That was culture shock in a way. I went from a very serious, high stress environment to one of easy going and care-free. I could not relate to most of the people around me. I felt isolated and miss-understood. In time, the routine of going to class for the semester, taking a final, starting again next semester became very boring to me. When I get bored I start getting resentful for I feel I am missing out on something in life and being lied to.

After college I worked a few different jobs. I didn't like any of them. I learned that it was not what I knew, but who I knew. I was passed over for promotion. I was made fun of and laughed at in front of co-workers by managers. I was treated like a child.

Relationships were never fun. Dating was never fun. Though I learned a lot about women and appreciate that knowledge, I am leery of them and expect them to simple use me, then discard me like a disposable toy at their leisure.

Talking to most people was like talking to an animal or a plant. I rarely found anyone to relate to or who enjoyed my intelligence. Most of the time I was scorned, even insulted for "acting" smart... when I could look into their eyes and see the fear.

With all of the above things going on, my feelings inside churned and churned. Bitterness turned into anger. Anger into hate. Hatred into malice. It wore on me. It hurt... but after awhile I realized something wonderful. It was all honest.

Our... your species may find enjoyment in deception, half-truths, and deceit, but I don't have to. Your species can't even take care of itself as a whole... there is always an excuse or a "legitimate" defense.

I started saying things like, "I never asked to be part of this species." "Simple little humans." "Flimsy little humans." "Humans never make mistakes... it is impossible -they declared it so."

I hit bottom of this seemingly endless pit over ten years ago. One day I looked into the mirror and saw all that I resented and hated in one simple display. Tears rolled down my face for a very long time as I stood there in silence with that simple image in my mind.

Something changed.

I began noticing the colors in sunsets, how butterflies danced in the wind, the intricate curves of flowers, and many other things. Beauty in all its many forms had graced me and I wanted more. With beauty, came patience, and with patience came compassion.

I still do not like our species as a whole. I can not think of a logical reason for "its" existence (I do try very hard to find one and present to myself in my thoughts). There are individuals that I have respect for and care about.

I also still feel that if I could eradicate the species I would be doing it a favor by putting it out of its misery and stopping the endless pain that it has in abundance.

I still have more respect for ants and worms than people, but humans do once in a while do things that surprise me and make me think... which is good.

Yes, I am a misanthrope -and I like it. For where I am in my life, it is a healthy step in my healing of my soul.

I will be honest; I feel the utmost of contempt for them. Simple social creatures... Barely any capacity to think beyond the limitations given them by an alpha.
It takes incredible self control for me not to simply hit them as they speak or approach... Vile things, really. Their minds, that is. But, still, despite my feelings on the matter, they still share the same planet, and some few do have potential.
My contempt isn't limited just to nt's. I'm even more critical of aspies, but they don't disappoint as often.
I suppose some should even be grateful for the contempt - so long as I hold that view, I can't abide using others to reach my goals... It would just feel wrong, dirty, to do so.
I would then view myself with contempt for manipulating inferiors - if that makes sense.

-Do you have contempt for the human race?
Yes and No

-If yes, is your contempt exclusively for NT's?
No, the contempt is for everyone, as everyone is potential to be and do what we dispise, without discrimination. NTs, aspies, men, women, rich, poor, white, black, etc.

-If no contempt and are happy with the human race, why (because I can't fathom that ideal)?
I think a misantrophe who has contempt for humanity, then he should feel the same way towards himself, as he would be as bad as any other human being he dispises, because as he is also human, he should be no different. Should he believe to be different and better than the rest of the species? how can he know he is better? how can he be so certain about it? He very well could be worse than those who he dispises, believing otherwise.

Also, ironically, the misantrophe enjoys things that take for granted which has been the result of efforts of other human beings, in which he even may be alive for it, the misantrophe dispises the species in which he dependent on, in order to stay alive and to enjoy things he likes and needs. The irony here.

-How do you entertain your vision? Do you see one single, happy human family (like a peace and love gathering) or wish you'd be the World Dominator who's victory is his (or her's), annihilate humanity and rest (alone) in your castle?
I am being honest to say that I'd rather live in a castle separated from the rest of humanity, in isolation but the castle being a paradise for me, perhaps transported to another reality in which only me and other few people I like exist in this other world. Without the existence of the rest.

I think people hate the human race until they find a really good job that pays a good salary, get married and start a family. Then they might hate the human race still but they share this sentiment with their families, not internet forums.
When they fight with their spouses over something it's back to the internet forums again where they talk about how rotten certain members of the human race are. Most single out a group to pick on. This is the way of the human, I have noticed.

Great line of tought but I am married, have a kid, a good job with a decent salary and still despise (most of) humanity.

Politicians, cops and musicians should be lined up against a wall and shot.

[/quote]musicians should be lined up against a wall and shot.[\quote]

I beg your pardon?????

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I "Hate" Misanthropes

This is one of the main reasons NT's mock aspies.... Grow Up

Isn't that just waht NTs say to Aspies? Are you sure you're an Aspie?

No, I see it all the time online. Misanthropic Aspies making fools of themselves and getting shot down. I'm an aspie, I'm just not a mean, damaged person....

No. I rather like it. I jokingly often say that I totally don't mind everybody else dropping dead the next second.

That is because don't mind if I'm left the only person on the planet. I'd love it I think, not because I dislike or not adore some people, but because I like being able to do everything I want to.

I love humanity. Thus, I take a fascination in people that have altered the human basis by becoming this strange sort of individual. People are funny, refreshing, confusing and surprising in positive and negative ways in that chaos, ignorant, cruel, devastating and creative.

And I find myself being in-between fascination for the existence of each aspect and not caring for any of it.

IRWEASAL, I don't much care for being told to grow up by some punk kid barely out of puberty .
Especially when said punk kid fails to realize intent of forums.
Notice I said I was being honest, and that was how I feel?
How could I "grow up" from that? Completely rewrite my base character?
Immaturity would be enacting those feelings; rather than using self control. Self control, kid, is a little skill you pick up when you grow up .

Have fun with that.

Strange... I always though forums were places to air views? Oh wait, this is ment to be a personal attack, I see.

Grow Up

Kid, airing a view and just straight-out telling someone to grow up are two different things. If you call that a view, I feel sorry for you.
Just so you know; nt's don't rip on us for our *private thoughts*, but for obvious social differences and motor coordination issues, etc.

Besides which, misanthropy was coined by nt's, and nt's are misanthropes too .

Have fun with that. BTW, I shouldn't have to tell you to grow up. You probably don't even shave regularly, so it's a given

the reason why some aspies use 'grow up' is because they have heard it too often against themselves