Why are so many Aspies on here getting disablility income?

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09 Sep 2008, 3:34 am

ProtossX wrote:

actually having done both school and work

school is actually much harder socially with peers and meeting expectations of a teacher is almost equally or more so demanding then a real job.

teachers ask you to do group projects together is much more demanding then a job where you do a simple task like store books or boxes or what have you with little to no socialization at all which your complaining about

in fact all uve done is complain

you people are lazier then anything ive ever seen before and no you are not disabled like most of the people who i think should get it

YOU CAN LIVE ON ur own in ur own apartment pay bills and feed yourself but you can't WORK? ARE YOU CRAZY? YOU ARE NOT DISABLED

GET OUTA MY FACE PLZ

I Hope the government personally visits some of ur apartments an finds out how really able you are when you have to live on the street instead of gettin these free pay checks handed your way of course you can't handle working when its not life or death but u can go to school an spend spend spend on yourself an who cares if u cant have a car or tons of money in ur bank ur GETTIN money for doing absolutely nothing at all an it just keeps funneling in an out so what does it matter

Okay that's it. By the way you are acting, I am beginning to think you don't have AS and I would be really surprised if you really did have it. If you really did have it, then you would understand the struggles and not act this way.

Either you really don't have AS or you are just trolling. I will not be replying to any more of your posts. If you are Shleed, then forget what I had just said.

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09 Sep 2008, 3:40 am

Mm... He could have AS and just be kind of a bigot. I mean, with the sort of prejudice there is against disabled people, it's not surprising that someone might fight so violently against the idea of being disabled that he ends up trying to hurt people very much like himself. That sort of prejudice against your own group is sadly common with disabilities; it's a way of saying, "I'm not like THEM", distancing yourself from the hated group despite being a part of it, splitting disability into "acceptable" and "non-acceptable" sorts, insisting that it's not "really" disability but some kind of character weakness...

Obviously, if you can work, you should. It's pretty logical to look down on somebody who doesn't work because he doesn't want to. But if you can't get a job, can't hold on to one, and are constantly in fear of losing the roof over your head? Yeah, big difference between that and "lazy".

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09 Sep 2008, 5:02 am

ProtossX-

Kids like you ruin the forum for people like me. Your inability to see other's points of view, while representative of your AS, can be extremely annoying. You are not the center of the universe, and all of your questions are pretexts for flaming people who post to your threads because somewhere, somehow-you think you know it all. You really don't want to know why people are on disability. You just want to criticize people for being on disability.

DW-a-mom-I've seen some of your patient and thoughtful posts to different young posters, and I really appreciate your ability to offer information in a steady and gentle way. Your knowledge and candor are refreshing.

Metta, Rjaye.

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09 Sep 2008, 5:02 am

ProtossX wrote:

I've seen mentally ret*d people doing ticket booth's in movie theatres and serving/cleaning things and doing basic task's

Why is that so many aspies on here are on disability income and don't work at all?

I'm not talkin about the people who are getting some on the side im talkin about the ppl just using disability for there income when they know they can work as much as someone who is mentally challenged or what have you being asperger or autism is realy no excuse for not working if you take look at what other people with even more problems are able to do, what makes them entitled to welfare?

I work slower because I've also got ADD and I have huge math problems.

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09 Sep 2008, 5:55 am

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Why is that so many aspies on here are on disability income and don't work at all?

Why are there so many people on here making broad and incorrect generalizations?
Oh, that's right, it's not really so many, it's really just a few.

I wonder why so many highly competent and qualified aspies get fired from so many jobs for reasons that have nothing to do with there job preformance.

By the way, I'm fully employed. I'm 50 years and I've only ben fully employed for a total of 8 years. I've never held any job for more than 5 years and I've only held one for more than 3 and it was half-time. I've been fired from more jobs than I've quit.

ProtossX, are you employed? How many jobs have you had? And, (this is an inquiry, not an insult,) how do you manage to offend so many people in so few words. How do you feel about being asked such a leading question? Or is it really not so many people? Is it really just a few?

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09 Sep 2008, 7:06 am

the last job i did i had a complete mental breakdown...so i'm currently on disability whilst we sort out a. councilling b. work related traning c. a job in a supported environment.

it's going well so far ^.^ x

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09 Sep 2008, 7:17 am

First post here, was going to lurk for a little while longer but I have to say how much I admire all of you for being way more friendly to the initiator of this thread than he deserves.

ProtossX, why don't you **** off and get on with your own life instead of criticising what you perceive in others' lives ? Trust me, chap, expressing such obnoxious and ignorant views would get you chewed up and spat out on most forums. You're just lucky people on here are nice and polite.

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09 Sep 2008, 7:36 am

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Yeah, well, we're that way because we're all autistic and most of the time we don't know any better, but most of us here trying to learn better, so yeah, we're tolerant of a lot of stuff that wouldn't be tolerated in other places, at least to a degree. For example, we don't tolerate personal attacks. Please review the rules. Thanks.

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09 Sep 2008, 7:41 am

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What I don't understand is this: So many unhealthy looking people who are overweight get jobs with ease while I have difficulty finding one. How can an overweight person possibly be more qualified than me? Most the time overweight people have more health problems. I have no health problems (that I know of). By health problems, I mean physical ones. For instance, if a place needs three new cashiers, the overweight ones will get chosen over me and I to me that is so unfair. How can I possibly be less qualified? It's blatant discrimination.

GOD what a stupid thing to say. Overweight doesn't necessarily mean unskilled OR unhealthy. BTW I am overweight, and got a health problem in SECONDS basically caused by something NOT having to do with weight! As for cashiers, you never know. There ARE a few things involved. ALSO, health is LESS likely to be a concern.

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09 Sep 2008, 7:47 am

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A bit harsh perhaps? I thought he was complimenting us for being tolerant people.

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09 Sep 2008, 7:48 am

Even without a diagnosis - I went through fifty years thinking I was normal - the longest job I'd had up to my fiftieth birthday was two years. And that was across thirty years of writing software. Nothing too dramatic, I just wasn't a person who stuck around. I'm still not, but I've run out of places I haven't outstayed my welcome at, and there's just a chance I can do something useful by staying long enough to be part of an organisation rather than an irritant to it.

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09 Sep 2008, 7:50 am

Rjaye wrote:

...somewhere, somehow-you think you know it all.

Isn't that true of all teenagers?

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09 Sep 2008, 7:53 am

intense wrote:

MrMark wrote:

ExcellentDriver wrote:

A bit harsh perhaps? I thought he was complimenting us for being tolerant people.

What, validating that yes, we're very tolerant, but mentioning that we don't tolerate personal attacks?

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09 Sep 2008, 8:14 am

intense wrote:

MrMark wrote:

ExcellentDriver wrote:

A bit harsh perhaps? I thought he was complimenting us for being tolerant people.

MrMark - I will review the rules and I'm sorry if I broke 'em. But intense is right, I meant that as a positive post. No dig intended by calling people "nice and polite", although I can see on reading it again that it may have looked like it was meant sarcastically. It wasn't. Its an aspie communication thing

Maybe "tolerant" would have been a better word to use.

This is a good start, three posts in and I'm already apologising... story of my bleeding life

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09 Sep 2008, 8:27 am

MrMark wrote:

intense wrote:

MrMark wrote:

ExcellentDriver wrote:

A bit harsh perhaps? I thought he was complimenting us for being tolerant people.

What, validating that yes, we're very tolerant, but mentioning that we don't tolerate personal attacks?

I only meant to point out that the guy is new around here, and I didn't think his post was a personal attack he was just expressing his annoyance at ProtossX's ignorant views.

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09 Sep 2008, 8:30 am

ExcellentDriver wrote:

intense wrote:

MrMark wrote:

ExcellentDriver wrote:

A bit harsh perhaps? I thought he was complimenting us for being tolerant people.

Maybe "tolerant" would have been a better word to use.

This is a good start, three posts in and I'm already apologising... story of my bleeding life

It wasn't the "nice and polite" part I had a problem with, it was the "why don't you **** off" part. That crosses the line into personal attacks. Protoss makes many, uh... controversial posts, which piss people off, but that's not against the rules.

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