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03 Oct 2008, 10:15 pm

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I'm part Jewish myself but the generalizing doesn't really bother me. I guess probably because I only recently discovered this about myself. But there is too much negative generalizing, not just toward Jews either.

Of course, it just happens that most of the generalizations on here happen to be about Jews.

It would be just as alarming if they were about anyone else. Indeed, somewhere along the line someone said they thought the Nazis liked blue-eyed people because they're more docile, which was a rather curious assertion. :roll:



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03 Oct 2008, 10:21 pm

Alright maybe I got off on the wrong hand with one member in this thread and took the message the wrong way.

I think I misconstrued it for something else. I just get sick of people who make it a joke out of what happened to the Jews under the Nazi regime like it didn't happen. I took a class about it and couldn't handle most of it. I have the same opinion about many countries that use ethnic cleansing as a means to wipe and destroy "evil" or whatever the excuse.


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03 Oct 2008, 10:36 pm

I have brown eyes. I think most aspies have brown eyes because most people have brown eyes. My dad's eyes are sort of hazelish, I guess. Mom's are dark brown, as are mine and my brother's.

Why are we talking about Nazis? Why are we talking about eye color, anyway? What does eye color have to do with anything?



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03 Oct 2008, 10:42 pm

I think it just started with one post some page back and then went from there.

Not sure what blues eyes have to do with anything exactly...


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03 Oct 2008, 10:44 pm

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Did I say anything incorrect? I take correction very well. I like the truth.

I just looked over all your posts on this thread and I don't see anything wrong or objectionable in any of them.


Good to know. Thanks.


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03 Oct 2008, 11:02 pm

dougn wrote:
Social_Fantom wrote:
I'm part Jewish myself but the generalizing doesn't really bother me. I guess probably because I only recently discovered this about myself. But there is too much negative generalizing, not just toward Jews either.

Of course, it just happens that most of the generalizations on here happen to be about Jews.

It would be just as alarming if they were about anyone else. Indeed, somewhere along the line someone said they thought the Nazis liked blue-eyed people because they're more docile, which was a rather curious assertion. :roll:


Yeah, I've known people with blue eyes AND brown that I didn't trust, etc... If only it WERE so easy.

I think the NAZIs wanted such characteristics ONLY because they were aryan. In themselves, there is no inherent benefit. Light skinned people have an easier time getting Vitamin D, but are more likely to get skin cancer. Light eyes are more sensitive to the light which could be a benefit, but also a problem. And European white people are more likely to get diabetes and have a problem with lactose. I GUESS light hair could be better if you were in the daylight for camoflage, otherwise, I see no benefit. But HECK I, for one, like all of them. And for the record, my hair is dark. I guess NOW I'll get into a problem for this. I tried to balance it out.

And for MissConstrue, I didn't consider anything about the NAZIs a joke. Frankly, I think MOST governments have been more trouble than they are worth. The NAZIs did a LOT of bad stuff. And a lot of it hurt the GERMANS, as well as everyone else.



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03 Oct 2008, 11:22 pm

They were just wondering if the Nazis had anything to do with Asperger's research just because of the timing.



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03 Oct 2008, 11:55 pm

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They were just wondering if the Nazis had anything to do with Asperger's research just because of the timing.


Erm...except for the fact that many of Asperger's subjects were born before the rise of Nazism, or so soon afterwards that Nazi policies hardly could have had much of an effect. Breeding dogs takes several generations and careful selection before producing a "pure" stock. It is far more difficult to control the breeding behavior of humans. Quite simply, evolution is a very long process even if humans try to use genetic selection to steer it towards a particular result. While Asperger did do his work in Nazi-occupied Austria, the idea that Nazism somehow caused or was driven by aspie traits falls apart at the most cursory examination.



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04 Oct 2008, 2:29 am

That's your idea, I didn't see that suggested in this thread.



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04 Oct 2008, 6:39 am

I have blue eyes.. I think I'm a little more of a conscience person..



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04 Oct 2008, 9:04 am

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That's your idea, I didn't see that suggested in this thread.
Asperger's kids were probably no younger than 6! That means the nazis had less than 2 years to create it and spread it. That IS farfetched!



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04 Oct 2008, 9:07 am

This thread proves just how obsessed folks can be with something so shallow and meaningless as eye color. This is why I didn't respond to it, until now, of course. I could see where it would go, it's some kind of bait.
Judging by the responses, a lot of people are really interested in the color of their own eyes, and others as well?
To me it's kind of boring.

Oh, and here's a tasty irony for those interested: anyone notice?

Folks with ASDs are supposed to not like eyes anyway.



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04 Oct 2008, 2:49 pm

I have brown eyes, green around the edges. I think sort of half and half, half logically and half with my heart. If I get pissed off or something, it's all heart.



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04 Oct 2008, 2:52 pm

I have blue eyes and blond hair.And I am german. 8O :wink:



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04 Oct 2008, 6:53 pm

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Asperger's kids were probably no younger than 6! That means the nazis had less than 2 years to create it and spread it. That IS farfetched!


I didn't say they created it. But like the German Shepherd who is no longer used for herding sheep but more often a police dog, aspies may have turned into autistics.

Yes, I'm making an analogy between dogs and people. A Poodle and a German Shepherd are of the same species. But, what causes them to be so different?

Low functioning autism is relatively new. They used to be called idiot savants.


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04 Oct 2008, 10:20 pm

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Asperger's kids were probably no younger than 6! That means the nazis had less than 2 years to create it and spread it. That IS farfetched!


I didn't say they created it. But like the German Shepherd who is no longer used for herding sheep but more often a police dog, aspies may have turned into autistics.

Yes, I'm making an analogy between dogs and people. A Poodle and a German Shepherd are of the same species. But, what causes them to be so different?

Low functioning autism is relatively new. They used to be called idiot savants.


MAN, WHERE do you get your info!! !! !! !! Low Functioning autism is the OLDEST, and idiot savants are only a SUBSET of the LFAs! THAT is why Autism has such a BAD reputation, and is what "autism speaks" is talking about. Some LFAs appear to be relatively dumb overall(no offense meant to anyone). SOME have pockets of EXTREME ability or intelligence, and THEY are the ones that were called "idiot savants". They NOW call them "autistic savants".