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28 Nov 2008, 9:20 pm

..Because everywhere I turn, I see all these "end of the world" theories. 2012, 2022, etc.
I saw this dude on the Discovery Channel (well, actually, it was FNC, but it was this so-called space "expert" from the Discovery Channel). He says we're due for a city buster or planet buster asteroid. I don't want to die at a young age. I mostly want to get married someday. Once I have it, I will be happy with only that. I want to grow up to be an adult. Can anyone re-assure me on this? Because, it is driving me crazy!



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28 Nov 2008, 9:37 pm

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..Because everywhere I turn, I see all these "end of the world" theories. 2012, 2022, etc.
I saw this dude on the Discovery Channel (well, actually, it was FNC, but it was this so-called space "expert" from the Discovery Channel). He says we're due for a city buster or planet buster asteroid. I don't want to die at a young age. I mostly want to get married someday. Once I have it, I will be happy with only that. I want to grow up to be an adult. Can anyone re-assure me on this? Because, it is driving me crazy!


The 2012 thing is based on a misinterpretation of Mayan beliefs. Some people think that because the Mayan calendar ends in 2012, then the world will end. Actually, the Mayans would have just started the calendar over from the beginning and considered it the start of a new cycle.

Astronomers are getting better at tracking asteroids. The odds are against us being struck by one. If there is one headed toward us, scientists have been working on ways to deflect it before it reaches us. It's not like in the movies, we will most likely have plenty of time to work out a solution.

I'm a Christian, and the Bible says that no one shall know the hour that the world ends except for God, so anytime I see one of these end of the world predictions, I figure that we're safe on that day! :lol:


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28 Nov 2008, 9:53 pm

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I'm a Christian
So am I, but I am still a little worried.



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28 Nov 2008, 10:04 pm

jimmister wrote:
..Because everywhere I turn, I see all these "end of the world" theories. 2012, 2022, etc.
I saw this dude on the Discovery Channel (well, actually, it was FNC, but it was this so-called space "expert" from the Discovery Channel). He says we're due for a city buster or planet buster asteroid. I don't want to die at a young age. I mostly want to get married someday. Once I have it, I will be happy with only that. I want to grow up to be an adult. Can anyone re-assure me on this? Because, it is driving me crazy!


Dont worry about it, for an asteroid we're still talking massive periods of time so due could be 500 years off. The planet has happily swept it's path free of objects well before we arrived so we will most likely be ok on that front. For everything else, 2012 etc every generation has had members who have decided they are living in the last days. Nowadays we have higher places to shout from so the local doomsayers have a global reach, if anything happens in 2012 it will be the collective sigh of relief from all the people who've been worrying about it!



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28 Nov 2008, 10:05 pm

jimmister wrote:
CelticRose wrote:
I'm a Christian
So am I, but I am still a little worried.

Well, in that case, trust in God and His plan for you. When your time comes, it comes and there is nothing you can do about it. Anyway, the worst that will happen is that you go to see Jesus a little earlier than you had planned.

God will take care of you -- you don't have to worry.


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28 Nov 2008, 10:33 pm

Hell, the world was supposed to end at the beginning of the new millenium, wasn't it? I mean, yeah an asteroid probably WILL hit us...EVENTUALLY. And by eventually I mean hundreds of years from now.

Though one thing I did here is that some geologist said that there's a 99% chance that an earthquake on the scale of a 7.8 will hit California, leaving millions homeless and 100's of billions of dollars in damage. That should happen within the next 30 years....or in 30 years...not sure.


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28 Nov 2008, 10:54 pm

It's scary when you want to try so hard to control things that you cannot. But I understand the anxiety as I have it, I can't tell you how much I worry about something possibly happening in the future.. especially when it comes to issues that are simply out of my hands. But I highly doubt anything is going to really happen to us in 2012.. didn't they predict that something would happen to us on June 6, 1999? Well... here we are 9.5 years later...


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29 Nov 2008, 2:28 am

I would try to relax and not worry too much about the threat of an asteroid falling from the sky and killing you. Even if the monster rock from spaces falls to earth it is unlikely to kill or harm you. You would have to be quite close to where it falls for it to hurt you.

According to NASA the likelyhood of a large space rock falling from the sky is low, if you want you can have a look at the table of objects which NASA are watching. This can be found at http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/#legend

For the object (2007 VK184) which worries them most NASA have estimated , it is 152 Megatons of TNT. While I would not want to be near to even a one kilo of TNT explosion. I do not think that a single 150 MT is going to be the end of all life on earth,

The first atomic bombs were in the range of about 18 kT (0.0018 MT). The Soviets set off a monster 50 MT bomb named tsar bomb years ago which had a vast flash seen many 100s of miles away, the earth did not fall to bits as a result and we are still alive.

Krakatoa was about the same as a 200 MT bomb, while this altered the climate mildly for some years the earth did recover within decades.


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29 Nov 2008, 5:49 am

I once had that worry. Try to relax, the chances of an asteroid hitting us are very low, I even read it will not even hit us. :) Remember, if there was a real threat, scientists would be really worried, and don't let things on TV worry you, sometimes things on TV can be over-exagerated to get more viewers.

There's nothing to worry about. :)


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29 Nov 2008, 6:19 am

Don't worry about these hypothesis, it's really common from scientists.
Therefore, if something will happen, scientists will have planned it, and will invent a big-nuclear missile or a powerful laser to blast the asteroid. There are more complex solutions, but I won't say them here, as it is not in the right topic.


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29 Nov 2008, 6:32 am

The World has supposed to end a thousand times according to different people despite them giving no reason as to how or why.

It goes on now and it went on in the past and yet we're still all here. Why should the latest one be any more of risk than any other?

We should get on with our lives and not worry about it :)



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29 Nov 2008, 6:41 am

Its very simple. We are not all gonna die in some super catastrophic disaster, whether by asteroid, world war 3, horrible strain of disease, sun going supernova, global warming frying us into tiny shriveled pieces of meat, alien parasites, alien giant weapon of destruction, ice age, robotic rebellion, or any other act of what-f*ckin-ever.


And if we do, why do you care, you're gonna be dead anyways :P



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29 Nov 2008, 7:01 am

u know there has been so many end of world dates procouncet that none of em is probably real and made to get attention


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29 Nov 2008, 7:25 am

Woodpecker wrote:
I would try to relax and not worry too much about the threat of an asteroid falling from the sky and killing you. Even if the monster rock from spaces falls to earth it is unlikely to kill or harm you. You would have to be quite close to where it falls for it to hurt you.

According to NASA the likelyhood of a large space rock falling from the sky is low, if you want you can have a look at the table of objects which NASA are watching. This can be found at http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/#legend

For the object (2007 VK184) which worries them most NASA have estimated , it is 152 Megatons of TNT. While I would not want to be near to even a one kilo of TNT explosion. I do not think that a single 150 MT is going to be the end of all life on earth,

The first atomic bombs were in the range of about 18 kT (0.0018 MT). The Soviets set off a monster 50 MT bomb named tsar bomb years ago which had a vast flash seen many 100s of miles away, the earth did not fall to bits as a result and we are still alive.

Krakatoa was about the same as a 200 MT bomb, while this altered the climate mildly for some years the earth did recover within decades.


Completely clueless in regards to the effects a 150MT blast would have on the planet. Don't just make stuff up if you don't know what the hell you're talking about.



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29 Nov 2008, 8:39 am

What is the point in worrying about meteorites?

That's NASA's job. If they screw up, they're toast too.

As for the End Times of Revelation - it is a deliberate fiction designed to be generally applicable to most generic disasters that occur from time to time - to keep people pious and obedient. Relgion is simply a means of mass social control.



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29 Nov 2008, 9:05 am

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What is the point in worrying about meteorites? That's NASA's job. If they screw up, they're toast too.


There is no point in worrying about asteroid strikes. Firstly, that is like worrying that a small plane out of control is going to dive into your house tomorrow. Secondly, governments and scientists around the world do have plans to try to save us if that happens.

The Jet Propulsion Lab in California (Pasadena?) has been engineering projects for sending small constellations of deep space drones out to go blow it up, in the event something big and slow has a collision course with us. I'm not sure how advanced those projects are or if a deep space asteroid demolition project could be put together in hurry if something were to be detected tomorrow. But they have done studies, collected plans and engineering approaches and they would have strategies if a problem arose. It's not like the movies where everyone would be sitting around saying "Wow, who would have thought this could happen- go get that oil driller demolition expert, he might know how to blow up an asteroid".

The biggest problem is with intermediate sized objects that take us by surprise for some reason and are moving fast. The small ones aren't that bad because one won't do much damage unless it hits near you, while the big ones aren't that bad because one will be easy to spot years out. So there's kind of a limited range of problem objects and strategies that JPL and other deep space scientists need to work on. It's not an unimaginable engineering problem to prepare for and solve.