Supporting Alex's View of Wrongplanet Unity
There will be a series of questions mixed in this writing.
I feel what Alex was saying was important. Those who
dislike me, please try to look past your indiffernces and see
the forest not the tree's only. Those who know of my good
side and nature, thanks for seeing this forest.
Spectrum can rely upon each other especially in a world that doesn't
understand, nor respect the dignity that we as people should all share in.
this unity and co-operation is well presented by Alex, thanks for
this bit of a reminder of our strengths as well as how in bad and
good temperments we can forgive each other as people in the
autism spectrum and see what is the end result of the many tree's.
In most literature on Autism the phrase, "see the tree's not the
forest" would apply in this forgetfulness of our unity and
strength if we can forgive our trespasses upon each other
and see the good that the forest represents.
I say this in the perspective that Alex's post that I cut and pasted
below is very sincere and accurate.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: aspies helping out other aspies.... how we have an advantage Reply with quote
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I think one thing that gives us aspies an advantage is the fact that we have a group of people who are willing to help each other out. We find jobs through our aspie contacts, we find places to stay when we're visiting other cities, and we help each other through the hard times.
This is true. For those on Wrong Planet who will have the
courage to meet each other face to face in a long distance
way I solute you.
For those to whom have done so, thanks for showing your
courage.
other face to face? And what was your experience?
........Back to Alex's Statement
I am a example of this. I am staying at BeeBee's after
my 60 day bus pass expire to improve myself psychology
wise(anger management), Diagnostic(AS, or Autism, or ect...),
Vocational(V.A.P, and other psychological assessments) betterment.
What makes this good is that she could see the good in me, as others
on the board can see the good in other members on the board by meeting
each other beyond these pixelized representations of ourselves.
Most people would not have understood my temperments. BeeBee
is able to do so. She understands that all in the spectrum have
points that trigger our reactions of bad experiences. She has
seen past my outbursts that comes from these triggers. She
knows they will ride themselves out with a sense of awareness.
She has the insight that the simplest things that are luxory to
others are coping tools for those in the spectrum.
triggers that set each other off, and shake my hand in understanding
that our weaknesses are outweighed by our strengths and
forgiveness. Thanks for trying to attempting to shake
my hand and allowing our past experiences of misunderstandings
can be looked beyond to the present day reconciling.
Hmmmmm? What are your(members of the site) experiences
that have led to sharing ones house or dwelling.
Hmmmmm? What are some reconsiled encounters have
you members of this site have looked past and allow
a present day unity?
This is true!
Hmmmmm? What things have you members of this site done
that done to stick together, beyond our weaknesses and triggers
that cause reaction?
Hmmmmmm?
I have had the privledge to visit alex. Who else on this site
has visited Alex?
A Question for you Alex? Who have you visited?
Hmmmmm?
Alex, right now I am going through steps and phases to improve
my psychological and physical well being. I know that my
temperment, and you weaknesses as well made us have
misunderstanding, can we speak again as people?
I am sorry for not grasping the impact i can make on other
people. I am hopeful we both can see past our weaknesses.
Hmmmmmm? Who on this board has visited others on this site?
I have visited some members last summer and can say it was
insightful and hopefully my personality flaws didnt' give you
a bad impact about me?
the bits of wisdom that is being displayed by Alex is strong.
Thanks Alex.
Most NT are judgemental and not as giving. It is my opinion that Alex
is correct. We are (people with autism) bound to each other with
a common cause(our weaknesses in life and strengths that are mostly
misunderstood). Let us see what Alex has said and unite and
see a new level of co-operation and meeting of each other beyond
these mere pixelization representations of ourselves.
Hmmmm? any thoughts about this?
What we have at WrongPlanet is totally awesome and I think we can use this to become quite successful.
And as a summary well spoken.
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter
P.S...Thanks for the members who have met me. I hope to hear
of your impressions. Thanks for you(Alex) for taking my hand
and shaking it, thus being a persons who can say friend, not
weaknesses and triggers that make us as incompatible individuals.
This is your site,and I am just a member, but that shouldn't be a barrier of a
past relation and nor should our past misunderstanding!
GH. Thank you for your post. I found it quite insightful and I appreciate your approval of my vision. I enjoyed having you at my house. I have not gone to anyone else's house yet but I will be going to California in a couple of weeks to stay with GroovyDruid.
Again, I look forward to our future as an Aspie community and hope to see more of you around. I miss your regular WrongPlanet.net posting and I am glad when I do come across a new and insightful post of yours.
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I've tried to meet a few WP members in real life but it hasn't happened yet
I'd really like to meet someone from the board
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New postPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
GH. Thank you for your post. I found it quite insightful and I appreciate your approval of my vision. I enjoyed having you at my house. I have not gone to anyone else's house yet but I will be going to California in a couple of weeks to stay with GroovyDruid.
Again, I look forward to our future as an Aspie community and hope to see more of you around. I miss your regular WrongPlanet.net posting and I am glad when I do come across a new and insightful post of yours.
Thanks for this response, and understanding my view of your
perspective. My only regret that holds me back from being
a regular poster is that in all the good that I thought I done
here from March to July 2005 seemed to have been overlooked
due to my temperment that I am trying to learn to control.
Hmmmmm?
I see alot of newbys getting favor treatments and statuses
and I was just wasting my time trying to be my sincere self.
That is one of the reasons I showed much earlier resentment
during August-January 2006.
I am not trying to be negative, but add insight to why I, under
more peaceful times on your site have been ghostly.
P.S....Thanks for Accepting my appology and shaking my hand
and hope that future activity by me is not discarded as such.
You and your site are good things though.
Sincerely,
Stanley
By status, do you mean the ranking we have next to our name. Those little boxes? Do they unlock something special? I thought those were based on number of posts.
I think by status he means being made a moderator or admin. Though let me tell you, it's sometimes more of a headache than it's worth. Other mods have already said this kind of thing, but I think it needs repeating.
Maybe you think that being a mod is a sign that you're accepted into the group instead of hovering on the fringes. This isn't how it works out in real life. Just having your name in green means that you've suddenly been pegged the enemy of most of the outspoken and vocal (and perhaps most interesting?) members on the site. People create conspiracy theories about you. People accuse you of picking favorites if you don't warn someone who's said something that might possibly be an insult. Then they accuse you of attacking people based on nationality, political views, etc. if you do send warnings. You can't speak freely or honestly because sometimes the honest things you would say - "I don't have time to answer this thread", "I think your views are full of crap", even something as mild as "I disagree" - only bring on more accusations.
I have various personal reasons I do it. But the mod burnout rate on this site is amazingly high. And there are reasons for it.
Meeting people has worked for me 75% of the time. Good odds. We're all different and won't get along with everyone we meet.
If not for WP I would not have met GalileoAce. I would not be getting through my depression half as well. I guess I have been one of those people on the fringes, doing more reading than posting but still enjoying WP.
Ghosthunter, you were one of the first to ask questions of me and take an interest. I will not forget.
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I want people to make conspiracy theories about me. I'd be honored.
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And as always, these are simply my worthless opinions.
My body is a channel that translates energy from the universe into happiness.
I either express information, or consume it. I am debating which to do right now.
I've met two people from WP. One lives nearby, and the other was visiting on a business trip. There are others that live within driving distance and I would go visit them if they wanted, but it seems that most people are really friendly on the internet but don't really want to get to know other aspies in real life. Too bad. I *do* have the time and money to travel and wouldn't mind dropping in on people if I was going to be in their corner of the world. For example, I'm planning to go to Australia in May. Anyone in Sydney want to meet up? Brisbane? Cairns? Heck, I might even fly out to Perth for the sole purpose of stalking Danlo!
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is correct. We are (people with autism) bound to each other with
a common cause(our weaknesses in life and strengths that are mostly
misunderstood). Let us see what Alex has said and unite and
see a new level of co-operation and meeting of each other beyond
these mere pixelization representations of ourselves.
Hmmmm? any thoughts about this?
I don't know why you feel the need to make such generalizations about NT people, especially seeing that you have spent time with one who has been very kind and generous to you, Ghosthunter.
Some NT people are extremely kind, while others are not.
Some autistic people are extremely kind, while others are not.
People are individuals, and their neurological designations have very little to do with their kindness or whether or not they are judgemental. This discrimination based on neurological type is very disturbing to me because since so many of us have been victims of it, we should be doubly careful not to do it to other people, particularly the other members of WP.
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Well Im NT and have our daughters boyfriend an Aspie living with us, he moved in a couple of days before joining this site, does that count. But any Aspie down this way that wants to come in for a cup of tea is more than welcome. Just pm me and I'll give address and phone number.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:
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Ghosthunter wrote:
Most NT are judgemental and not as giving. It is my opinion that Alex
is correct. We are (people with autism) bound to each other with
a common cause(our weaknesses in life and strengths that are mostly
misunderstood). Let us see what Alex has said and unite and
see a new level of co-operation and meeting of each other beyond
these mere pixelization representations of ourselves.
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Hmmmm? any thoughts about this?
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Aspen:
I don't know why you feel the need to make such generalizations about NT people, especially seeing that you have spent time with one who has been very kind and generous to you, Ghosthunter.
Some NT people are extremely kind, while others are not.
Some autistic people are extremely kind, while others are not.
People are individuals, and their neurological designations have very little to do with their kindness or whether or not they are judgemental. This discrimination based on neurological type is very disturbing to me because since so many of us have been victims of it, we should be doubly careful not to do it to other people, particularly the other members of WP.
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Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. - Albert EinsteinBack to top
And you are correct. You gave a example of the
"tree versus the forest" theory I read about. How autistic
of me to not see the individual but the overall lumped
in the same tree(Memory, abuse, or whatever it
might represent) and not see that all the trees
aren't the same.
I say thanks for reminding me of this! And Cool
that you reminded me of my this particular weakness.
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter
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Posts: 150
Location: England
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject:
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Well Im NT and have our daughters boyfriend an Aspie living with us, he moved in a couple of days before joining this site, does that count. But any Aspie down this way that wants to come in for a cup of tea is more than welcome. Just pm me and I'll give address and phone number.
As a matter of fact, if I were in England right now I would love
to take up that offer. I am blinded by the tree and forest theory
like most people in the autism spectrum. So no disrespect was
intended. I am glad to admit there are many good trees in this forest
of reaction(memory, ect....) and it is good to be reminded of this
autism weakness.
I hope I didn't offend you, or other friendly NT's. Where we are
blind in some areas others are uniquely blind in other areas.
Hmmmmm? What is your favorite tea? I like Lipton tea in the States.
and mint tea as a specialty. Thanks for reminding me that all
tree's arent' the same in a Neurotypical and Autism way.
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter
Hi Ghosthunter,
Although I was sadly not able to meet up with you when you were traveling (because of a summertime fiasco that had me in a bit of pain for quite a few weeks) I have had the pleasure of meeting one other fellow aspie from online forums.
On the forums his name is The ASman and we had a wonderful time meeting up. The ASman was very nice and had many wonderful ideas on future projects he wished to start. The conversation was lively and very entertaining...we spent most of the day talking. The ASman is not seen here or on other forums anymore because he has evidently had some problems with the rules on the forums but I still like to let people know that he is a very good person and a true advocate for autism.
Perhaps I will have a chance to meet others from this and other forums....I sure hope so. I do have other autistic friends that I care about and get together with every now and then, as much as I am able to and they are able to, anyway.
I agree GH, we've got to do our best to understand each other and also to accept each other's individual ways of expression. It is a learning experience and will take time and also courage to continue on even when we don't always succeed.
Patti/monastic
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