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Who is the biggest enemy against autism this year?
Poll ended at 01 Jan 2009, 11:40 pm
PETA 15%  15%  [ 9 ]
Michael Savage 37%  37%  [ 22 ]
Jenny McCarthy 48%  48%  [ 29 ]
Total votes : 60

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29 Dec 2008, 1:26 am

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like i said before, DONT VOTE FOR HER THEN!


I'm sorry. I meant to say, "This poll is a load of crap."

then dont VOTE AT ALL! if its such a load of crap, the how come jenny is in second place. looks like there r some who disagree.


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29 Dec 2008, 1:28 am

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Michael Wiener Savage has said some of the worst things against auties, Jenny McCarthy isn't anti autie, she's just an idiot.

well i guess savage is ur vote then.


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29 Dec 2008, 1:29 am

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I can't vote in this poll because, as odious, infuriating and damaging as all of the choices are and have been, you don't have an option for FAAAS. FAAAS is, by far, the worst "person" in autism this year and every year, hands down. And FAAAS-alighned Maxine Eastman, with her totally bogus and hateful and unscientifically-supported "Cassandra Affective Disorder" should be included as well.



I just looked it up and yeah it does sound made up.

Let's make up a condition for people who don't have normal relationships.

This world gets weirder and weirder as more conditions get made up.

Did you hear they made up "shy eating?" It's when people feel so self conscious they can't eat with people around because they worry what people will think when they see them eat.



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29 Dec 2008, 1:30 am

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then dont VOTE AT ALL! if its such a load of crap, the how come jenny is in second place. looks like there r some who disagree.


That is because they, like you, didn't actually read the books. Rather, they believed the hype and hysteria of the anti-"NT" militants who claim any effort on the part of a parent to educate themselves and help their children undermines the authentic "autism-ness" which they were born with.



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29 Dec 2008, 1:32 am

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then dont VOTE AT ALL! if its such a load of crap, the how come jenny is in second place. looks like there r some who disagree.


That is because they, like you, didn't actually read the books. Rather, they believed the hype and hysteria of the anti-"NT" militants who claim any effort on the part of a parent to educate themselves and help their children undermines the authentic "autism-ness" which they were born with.

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29 Dec 2008, 1:34 am

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then dont VOTE AT ALL! if its such a load of crap, the how come jenny is in second place. looks like there r some who disagree.


That is because they, like you, didn't actually read the books. Rather, they believed the hype and hysteria of the anti-"NT" militants who claim any effort on the part of a parent to educate themselves and help their children undermines the authentic "autism-ness" which they were born with.

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29 Dec 2008, 1:35 am

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titz


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29 Dec 2008, 1:38 am

It'd have to be me.



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29 Dec 2008, 3:25 am

Not every autistic advocate who opposes Jenny McCarthy's approach to discussing autism in the public forum has not read the book - though I do know what you mean by some people who just have a knee-jerk reaction just based off of some very surface things. But, truthfully, many people just get exposed to her ideas through what she says on TV and such, not just by reading the book.

But this review is by an autistic advocate who read the book from the library and talks about it.


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29 Dec 2008, 3:29 am

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PETA: It happened in the early fall, PETA decided to post the results of a fake study they conducted that "concluded" that cow milk was linked to autism. They launched this "Got Autism" campaign to exploit Autism Activism to spread more of their anti-cow milk propaganda.
EEEEVIL MILK ITS TRYING TO KILL US ALL! :evil:











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29 Dec 2008, 4:48 am

Well, milk is pretty awful - it just has nothing to do with autism. :roll:


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29 Dec 2008, 5:05 am

It's really difficult to choose. I'm tempted just to vote for PETA, cause I really dislike PETA. So is that cool?



29 Dec 2008, 5:29 am

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Not every autistic advocate who opposes Jenny McCarthy's approach to discussing autism in the public forum has not read the book - though I do know what you mean by some people who just have a knee-jerk reaction just based off of some very surface things. But, truthfully, many people just get exposed to her ideas through what she says on TV and such, not just by reading the book.

But this review is by an autistic advocate who read the book from the library and talks about it.



What confused me in the review was this line:
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Her husband is an idiot who doesn't want Evan to be "fixed".



Why would she say he is an idiot? Wouldn't we all be proud of her husband because he doesn't wish to "fix" him? Lot of us are against that word and cure. "Fixed" was Jenny's word, not her husband's.



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29 Dec 2008, 5:41 am

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earthmonkey wrote:
Not every autistic advocate who opposes Jenny McCarthy's approach to discussing autism in the public forum has not read the book - though I do know what you mean by some people who just have a knee-jerk reaction just based off of some very surface things. But, truthfully, many people just get exposed to her ideas through what she says on TV and such, not just by reading the book.

But this review is by an autistic advocate who read the book from the library and talks about it.



What confused me in the review was this line:
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Her husband is an idiot who doesn't want Evan to be "fixed".



Why would she say he is an idiot? Wouldn't we all be proud of her husband because he doesn't wish to "fix" him? Lot of us are against that word and cure. "Fixed" was Jenny's word, not her husband's.


She's referring to how McCarthy's writing reflects on her black-and-white thinking perceptions of those around her - i.e. that to Jenny, her husband is an "idiot" for not wanting Evan "fixed". Not that this is what the blog author herself actually thinks of the idea of not "fixing" autistic people.


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It's really difficult to choose. I'm tempted just to vote for PETA, cause I really dislike PETA. So is that cool?


Heh. I feel similarly (for a number of reasons about that org), and I am vegan. But I really don't think they had too big of a negative impact, compared to the others. Maybe if they kept up with it longer.

Anyway, I think it is much better to focus on positive, constructive things to do, than to continue railing on the destructive things that have already come and gone. Yes, we should combat the misinformation as it comes, but generally the focus should be on positive awareness and actual progress.

(Edited for spelling.)


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29 Dec 2008, 8:30 am

Had to vote for Jenny McCarthy, since vacines are needed to prevent harmful diseases. Which made the other options pale by comparsion, or not as vile as.



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29 Dec 2008, 8:41 am

I think the crowd of ''Aspies are so rational! NT's are eeeeeevviiiilll'' doomsayers were more damaging.