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18 Dec 2008, 2:59 pm

An agate xmas tree would be beautiful. I think Jesus would have had curly black hair and olive skin perhaps. but we can never be sure.... if only someone had drawn him back in those times.


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18 Dec 2008, 3:07 pm

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Christmas highjacked the god Yule.

The tree was worshipped long before Christ arrived, and it was a pagan feast of fertility and worship of the tree as a phallic symbol.

Now we had a Jewish infant with blue eyes and blond curly locks in a manger...GIVE US YULE BACK!! !


Easter was also taken from a pagan holiday.



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18 Dec 2008, 3:11 pm

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I am sure somewhere in Arizona there's an Xmas tree covered entirely in ornaments made out of that funky gemstone...
well fire agate is arizonas unofficial gemstone since most of the best stuff comes from here so i wouldnt be suprised if some aspergers individual has it on his tree i dont have a tree in my dorm room, but my mom has a tree, so does my sister


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18 Dec 2008, 4:03 pm

im really not in a christmasy mood this year!
I usually love christmas
hopeuflly when it get to the day i wil be!
Ive barely done any xmas shopping!
And we havent got our tree up yet!
lol!! !! !! !! !!
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18 Dec 2008, 7:09 pm

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And as for Jesus having blond hair and blue eyes, well I have met Russian Jewish people with blond hair and blue eyes. Perhaps he was a Russian Jewish baby, dropped off on a time machine. Perhaps that is what the star was: the time machine arriving.


No no, that's how he was presented to us pagan Europeans, and in the Andes he has indigenous eyes or the Andes Indians, and in Africa he is black.

Just deception, as they, the Christians, have deceived us in the same manner by inventing a mother figure taken from Godess Isis who also held an infant in her arms.


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18 Dec 2008, 7:13 pm

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This has nothing to do with autism at all but...

CHRISTMAS FTW!! !! !


Robots have no feelings and that makes humans superior to robots...and defines us humans


According to Cybermen, emotions make humans weaker.


It is nice to be weak, the heavens will go open only for the meek, they shall inherit the earth, didn't Jesus say that? Feelings are a beautiful thing, they can hurt you but also enthrall and move you and make you sing or dance or create a masterpiece, or suffering is the source of inspiration to become a clown or a stand up comedian, etc.

According to whom??? What about according to YOU?


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18 Dec 2008, 7:15 pm

I hate Christmas.

I love my family, but I don't really love my family's family that much, it is quite tiresome to have to see all 10 uncles and their respective off-spring, really, I have had thousands of Christmas ruined since instead of just being with my family I had to go through that non-sense giant family reunions in which everything is alcohol and getting bored. I wish I didn't have to see them so often, then perhaps it would be easier to stand these situations, cause I am sick already.

Besides, it is very hard to think of gifts, whether it is for you or for parents, and since everyone is obligated to buy gifts this season, prices are all inflated. Not to mention the ridiculous religious non-sense and the fact that I am supposed to care about the rest of the world this month, sorry but the rest of the people did not do that much for me, I don't find any sense in having to be nice to people just because some random Catholic council thought it was a nice idea to hijack the Sun's rituals into their own date.


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18 Dec 2008, 10:52 pm

Holly and Mistletoe topic

I love this Christmassy time of year. Frosty, Rudolph, Burl Ives, The Beach Boys, Charlie Brown, The Grinch, Ebenezer Scrooge...I love everything about it. Goodwill, Salvation Army!

Especially the lights and the colours!! ! :D

Run, run reindeer! And don't miss no one!!


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18 Dec 2008, 11:19 pm

i don't much like christmas. i love it for my son but for myself - i can take it or leave it.
as for rudolph and snow and icicles, the thermometer in our kitchen (not even outside in the sun) currently reads 34 degrees Celsius. that is hot. very hot....



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22 Dec 2008, 5:46 pm

Loborojo wrote:
Christmas highjacked the god Yule.

The tree was worshipped long before Christ arrived, and it was a pagan feast of fertility and worship of the tree as a phallic symbol.

Now we had a Jewish infant with blue eyes and blond curly locks in a manger...GIVE US YULE BACK!! !


The Christmas tree as a phallic symbol? :?

I guess that depends what kind of tree you buy.

Jewish infants don't have blue eyes or curly blond locks-- that and similar portrayals of Christ are a European conceit. The historical Jesus was Semitic, dark haired and dark-eyed. Although who knows what he'll look like when he returns at the end of the world. And when that happens, no one will care about Jesus' eye- or hair-colour.

Sorry, Yule ain't comin' back. Christianity steamrolled over many paganisms and absorbed them into itself.

Yule isn't a god but a pagan feast based on the winter solstice, if I'm not mistaken. Honestly, I've never considered the Christmas tree as a symbolic penis. Too many needles.



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22 Dec 2008, 5:51 pm

sartresue wrote:
Holly and Mistletoe topic

I love this Christmassy time of year. Frosty, Rudolph, Burl Ives, The Beach Boys, Charlie Brown, The Grinch, Ebenezer Scrooge...I love everything about it. Goodwill, Salvation Army!

Especially the lights and the colours!! ! :D

Run, run reindeer! And don't miss no one!!


Even the atheistic, secular soul can find something to love about the season! The spirit of Christmas is accessible to everyone.



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01 Jan 2009, 6:46 pm

I absolutely LOVE Christmas!

If any of you have Contemporary Christian Music Recording Artist, Steven Curtis Chapman's "The Music Of Christmas" CD, I think that many of you will agree that Steven Curtis Chapman sums up the Christmas account recorded for us in the Gospels so well throughout his entire album.

We celebrate Christmas, because God (The Father) gave of His very best that first Christmas Eve in the form of His one and only Son, Jesus, who left His rightful place in Heaven, and who took on human identity in the form of a baby, who ultimately came to give His live as a ransom for ours, that we might have life in His name.

May the light that lit up the stable that first Christmas night, be the light that not warms your heart this and every day this year, but may it also serve as a lamp unto your feet and a light unto your path.

God has indeed come near.

Blessings to all in 2009,

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01 Jan 2009, 7:52 pm

richardbenson wrote:
zen_mistress wrote:
And as for Jesus having blond hair and blue eyes, well I have met Russian Jewish people with blond hair and blue eyes. Perhaps he was a Russian Jewish baby, dropped off on a time machine. Perhaps that is what the star was: the time machine arriving.
haha great explanation. my aunt is severly religious and when i told her jesus wasnt white with long curly hair she almost punched me in the face. i was all auntie he was a blackman and had nappy hair can you hear me now? she freaked. :lol:


You all act so knowledgable and pious, but Jesus could NOT have been black! WHY? 3 VERY good reasons!

1. It would have been NOTED!
2. Most jewish and Arab people would be black!
3. The Rabi scholars of the time started a rumor that his father was a roman centurion. How many romans do you know that are BLACK?

It is a fairly well known fact that black IS a dominant trait and they tended to have relations with blacks. ALSO, the Old testament speaks AGAINST such intermarriage!

So Jesus almost certainly didn't have blond hair or blue eyes.(The area, and lack of mention indicates the hair was between brown and black, and the eyes were brown.) But he could NOT have been black.(Again, it would have been mentioned) BESIDES, if he WAS black, it would have been another strike the pharasees would have had against him! His mother and/or father would have had to have sinned.



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01 Jan 2009, 8:03 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Loborojo wrote:
Christmas highjacked the god Yule.

The tree was worshipped long before Christ arrived, and it was a pagan feast of fertility and worship of the tree as a phallic symbol.

Now we had a Jewish infant with blue eyes and blond curly locks in a manger...GIVE US YULE BACK!! !


The Christmas tree as a phallic symbol? :?

I guess that depends what kind of tree you buy.

Jewish infants don't have blue eyes or curly blond locks-- that and similar portrayals of Christ are a European conceit. The historical Jesus was Semitic, dark haired and dark-eyed. Although who knows what he'll look like when he returns at the end of the world. And when that happens, no one will care about Jesus' eye- or hair-colour.

Sorry, Yule ain't comin' back. Christianity steamrolled over many paganisms and absorbed them into itself.

Yule isn't a god but a pagan feast based on the winter solstice, if I'm not mistaken. Honestly, I've never considered the Christmas tree as a symbolic penis. Too many needles.


Danish, for christmas, is Jule, or Juletid. Translated, that means "yule" or "yule time". And YEP! Oh TannenBaum(AKA oh christmas tree) REALLY means "Oh fir tree", and is a song celebrating the evergreens thriving through winter.

Some people think EVERYTHING is a phallus symbol. They have a perversion they expect EVERYONE to have. The tree is an EVERGREEN!! !! !! ! It is a Christmas symbol because they replaced the winter solstice celebration, and the evergreen was a sign of life continuing. The SAME was basically true of easter(With the egg and bunny, two symbols of fertility). Phallus symbols are not in ANY such celebration.



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01 Jan 2009, 8:44 pm

PastorNate wrote:
I absolutely LOVE Christmas!

If any of you have Contemporary Christian Music Recording Artist, Steven Curtis Chapman's "The Music Of Christmas" CD, I think that many of you will agree that Steven Curtis Chapman sums up the Christmas account recorded for us in the Gospels so well throughout his entire album.

We celebrate Christmas, because God (The Father) gave of His very best that first Christmas Eve in the form of His one and only Son, Jesus, who left His rightful place in Heaven, and who took on human identity in the form of a baby, who ultimately came to give His live as a ransom for ours, that we might have life in His name.

May the light that lit up the stable that first Christmas night, be the light that not warms your heart this and every day this year, but may it also serve as a lamp unto your feet and a light unto your path.

God has indeed come near.

Blessings to all in 2009,

PastorNate



blah bla blah....says who says who says who????????????????????????????????????

and this answer is also valid for the post before mine


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