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newal101587
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13 Feb 2005, 3:03 am

hey ppl i'm new here still not sure if i have asp or not (i def have many asp like traits) but here are two things that i just wanted to talk about

1. http://crux.baker.edu/cdavis09/roses.html this game is petals around the rose. I got it my first try. It took many of my freinds upwards of 10 mins to figure it out. I was thinking maybe its a "different way of thinking" type thign that may be attributed to aspergers.

2. i think i tend to associate certain songs with certain emotions. Even if i dont really understand these emotions, i tend to get nostalgic for them and i reserve the songs for certain times. This is really hard to explain sorry if i'm being unclear but just post your thoughts.

oh ya just as a side note i find it FASCINATING that almost everyone on here is an intp from that personality thread (myself included).

so anyway just post your thoughts.



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13 Feb 2005, 3:45 am

Uhm... the random roll of five dice is supposed to be linked to the number of imaginary petals on an imaginary rose somewhere? I don't see a connection. To even guess at an algebraic function, both the input and corresponding output values are necessary, not just the range. You can't figure out what a machine does by looking only at what goes in.

And this game can be played with real dice? So there's no actual pattern or connection between the five numbers rolled... the order is irrelevant... it must be the sum of the die rolls or something.


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13 Feb 2005, 4:00 am

Welcome to WP, newal! Glad you decided to join us. :D

I do that with music too - music is one of the few things that provokes an emotional reaction in me.

As for the petals game, I have no idea what it is on about. Can you explain what the idea is, or are you supposed to guess? :oops:

Nice to have you here.

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13 Feb 2005, 4:09 am

Balls. Didn't work.

It seems that all possible answers are even numbers no greater than 14, with 4 and 6 seeming to be the most common.

Rolls with lots of ones generally produce low outputs, but three sixes in one roll only produced a four. The fourteens are nearly always caused by rolling a few fives at the same time.

Why is it that three sixes and two threes will produce only a four, but three fives and two threes will produce a fourteen?

What the bloody hell?


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13 Feb 2005, 4:09 am

I figured it out on the second roll.



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13 Feb 2005, 4:13 am

Also, I think tens never come up.

This reminds me of the number of polyhedra that can be made out of nothing but equilateral triangles. You can make shapes out of 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, or 20 triangles, but not out of 18 triangles. Mathematicians don't understand why this happens.


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13 Feb 2005, 4:23 am

No, it turns out that ten and sixteen are possible answers.

Two questions:

- Why is the answer always even? Is it twice some other value, like the thing where the answer is always five times the nuymber of syllables in the name of a month? Or do the game's peculiar and mystical inner workings naturally prohibit the odd numbers?

- WHY IS THE BLOODY NAME SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNIFICANT?


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13 Feb 2005, 4:44 am

I saw that puzzle about a year ago. I was unfortunately the last to figure it out :roll:



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13 Feb 2005, 5:28 am

Okay, I cheated and used Google to find out the solution. It turns out to be really, really ret*d. Here are a few hints: if you use dice with numerals on them instead of dots, no one would ever figure it out. The number of dice used is irrelevant, as is (technically) the number of faces per die. You can do it with a dozen twenty-sided dice, or a pair of four-sided dice (though you'll be hard-pressed to find a twenty-sided or four-sided die that uses dots). Also, you usually get multiple "roses" in one roll, though you sometimes also don't get any.


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13 Feb 2005, 5:30 am

Also, if you made dice in which fours were represented as three dots surounding a central dot, and in which sixes were represented by five dots around a central dot, you would get different answers.

Stupid artsy bullcrap.


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13 Feb 2005, 5:34 am

Picked it up on the first roll, after looking at it for about 20 seconds.


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13 Feb 2005, 7:35 am

ghotistix wrote:
I saw that puzzle about a year ago. I was unfortunately the last to figure it out :roll:


Same here.



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13 Feb 2005, 7:57 am

Took me two goes to figure it out.



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13 Feb 2005, 8:00 am

newal101587 wrote:

i think i tend to associate certain songs with certain emotions. Even if i dont really understand these emotions, i tend to get nostalgic for them and i reserve the songs for certain times. This is really hard to explain sorry if i'm being unclear but just post your thoughts.


so anyway just post your thoughts.


I do that all the time with music, but I don't tend to save certain songs for certain times, instead I will always strongly feel an emotion whenever I listen to a favourite song.


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13 Feb 2005, 8:00 am

Hi. I've been lurking for a while.
I got this first go. It's visual, simple as that



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13 Feb 2005, 8:40 am

Technically it should be entitled 'How many petals around the ROSES' as there's more than one rose on most rolls.

Just me being picky.