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13 Feb 2005, 8:13 pm

alright here's a list i made post what yall think

why imight have aspergers:

1. awkardness--socially, clumsiness, etc
a. inability to come up with what to say in a conversation
b. inability to act on knowledge of what's going on in a social situation
c. weird problems with eye contact....
d. anxiety-->but problably a result of the other stuff
2. atrocious handwritting/drawing stuff
3. fingers around mouth/lips -->may be "stims"
tongue on/around/in tonsels
spinn pens incessantly....can't stop
younger= flip wrists/arms
4. horrible sense of direction (when driving or giving directions)
5. speach impediment --> younger
6. 130 on the aspie quiz--> normal aspies are 134, normal ppl are 100
7. impulsiveness/obsessions--> can work well with stuff i care about
get really really involved in things that i'm obsessed about
8. unique and good problem solving skills
9. desire to go on a lot about highly techincal things that i care a lot about to unreceptive audiences
tied with the impulsiveness obssessive--> as i drown myself in informatation that i enjoy
10. problem deciphering words in foreign language/music/ distinguishing from a background like rain......
prob some eleemtn of capd
also i have to ask what? a lot and then while i'm waiting i realize what they're saying...or sometimes i don't realize and have to ask what? repeatedly
11. i'm an intp--all aspies i have met are intp's or close
12. when i was younger i was the "little professor" exactly

why i might not have it:
1. no problems with visualizing stuff
2. no problems with math
3. easily grasp the overall picture and make connections
but then again...when i play a game like chess i tend to focus so much that sometimes i don't hear ppl
furthermore i often focus in specifically on a part of the board/game so much that i completely miss what else is going on....and then lose unless i can execute my plan fast enough
4. no "weird" "stims" like the rocking headbanging stuff
5. i greatly enjoy socializing (but it is hard...i had a recent realization--> i use so many cliches--unconciously)
and also more intimate/romantic stuff
6. i can't like memorize the phone book backwards or soemthing
-->while i certainly ahve a greatly abvoe average memory...i'm not like "that" good

not sure:
1. can experience empathy easily
easily can get into other people's heads and understand everythign they do and their motives
-->also can feel how it would be "in their shoes" or at least i think i can....
but i could care less about common courtesy like "excuse me" and "thank you notes"
2. irrational fear of bitting (feeling) and scrathcing on (sound) plates of forks and knives

from forums (also not sure):
1. “and color blurring when I see striped shirts and such things” ...but i am sort of color blind (red green deficincy) so i don't know if this is related
2. “discomfort with the feel of cotton and rough fabrics,” --> i've always hated and always will hate the feel of jeans
3. “I do have some sensory differences: skin that tends to feel itchy most of the time” EXACTLY this.....i went on zyrtec bc my doctor thought it was allergies...but it didn't help....now i just have to channel it out



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13 Feb 2005, 8:19 pm

I can't use felt-tip pens because of that scratchy sound.


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13 Feb 2005, 8:49 pm

Howdy newal101587. I'd say that from the list you supply there's a very good chance you might be AS. At the end of the day, we all have different sets of symptoms, but you have more than enough to qualify I reckon. I don't have any "savant" skills either (only about 1 in 10 autistics do), I love social interaction too (with people I know well, although its still very difficult - most aspies like socialising, its just that its hard for us) and I don't have any weird stims, but I still reckon I'm a nailed-on aspie (although I have no empathy unlike yourself). And having no problem with Maths is no anti-AS indicator, believe me! (Einstein and all that) :)

The only way you can be really sure of course though is to get a professional opinion.


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13 Feb 2005, 10:05 pm

I would speak to a professional.

I would also question yourself as to why the label is important. Do you want to lead a different life? How are things for you now?

As far as what you described, it sounds pretty close to myself. I have issues with empathy, sensory integration, and do more stimming, but lead a normal (if somewhat eccentric) life.

I have a photographic memory, and am very good at grasping spatial relationships. For example, I can dissasemble a car engine down to parts and a big bucket of bolts, and come back weeks later and put it back together without any issues, even if it is a model I have never worked on before.

I am very good with directions, and love reading maps.

Lots of aspies have different skills. Many are good at math, many are awful at it. Same thing with directions and visualization. I have a hard time visualizing peoples faces or something that I have never seen, but a very easy time with interpreting and storing what I directly see. Reassembly of anything mechanical simply becomes a matter of looking at how it was in the pictures in my mind.


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13 Feb 2005, 10:07 pm

One more thing.

Would you trust somebody on this message board to tell you how to remove your appendix? This is only slightly different than asking us for our opinion on diagnosing you. I would treat everything you read online with a grain of salt. Hopefully we can steer you in the right direction to get an answer, but it cannot come from us.


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13 Feb 2005, 10:11 pm

hmm i dunno i think the main reason i'm so intrigued about this all is because i'm seeking comfort in the fact that these problems are not "my fault".

though i don't know at all if a professional diagnosis is what i need. I don't know.......I think i might talk to my advisor at school and see what she says--i trust her a lot and i know she won't give me any awkward glances or whatever as i know my parents frends teachers trusted adults other ppl might.

by the way thanks for the responses



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13 Feb 2005, 10:25 pm

Your last statement sounds a little bit like "hiding behind a lebel". My advice would be not to limit yourself by looking for a label that aloows things to be "not your fault".

Unfortunately, the world will hold you responsible for your actions no matter what reason there is for them, so using a label as an excuse can be an exercise in futility.

I would advise you to look at a diagnosis as a potential way to develop a roadmap for improvement, to allow you a plan of attack to work on the things in your life you would most like to change. Don't look at it as a way to settle for less!

I don't want to sound preachy, but I think this can be a big problem in the AS community. Many adults I speak to with AS kids seem to almost hold them back by not having any real expectactions for them.


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13 Feb 2005, 10:26 pm

At the same time, I laud your efforts towards looking to learn more about yourself, and I wish you the absolute best of luck.


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13 Feb 2005, 10:45 pm

thanks lol
well anyway i'm not trying to hide behind a lable. i understand what you're saying and it's not at all that i'm trying to settle for less. I've been working or trying to work on improving my conversational skills for a very long time...its almsot an obsession. But no matter how hard i work i can't seem to get better. So i was thinking there must be something wrong with me.
So i find consolation in the fact that 1. it isn't completely "my fault" (whether society holds me to this doens't matter--its a *self*-confidence issue) and 2. that a lot of other ppl have this problem too.

So overall it's not that i'm trying to settle for less....i'm merely trying to find a reason why i'm like this and why it's so hard for me to improve.



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13 Feb 2005, 10:54 pm

Quote:
3. fingers around mouth/lips


Hi, newal101587! I do that too! But, I can't tell you if you have AS or not. Remember, nobody fits all of the symptoms exactly. Good luck.



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13 Feb 2005, 11:03 pm

so anyway i've tried a lot but what would yall reccommend to do to better my conversational skills

and btw i'm not really sure why i care, but i care a lot about like what other ppl tihnk of me and the impression i make



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14 Feb 2005, 5:53 am

Hmm, I greatly enjoying socialising, too. As long as i'm not feeling uncomfortable in the situation.

I'm my own worst enemy, really, I love attention but don't know what to do when I recieve it. - It's easy to get confused with whether you have something or not.

I think it's quite probable that you have AS, as the symptoms vary from person to person.



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14 Feb 2005, 7:07 am

newal101587 wrote:
well anyway i'm not trying to hide behind a lable. i understand what you're saying and it's not at all that i'm trying to settle for less. [...] So i find consolation in the fact that 1. it isn't completely "my fault" (whether society holds me to this doens't matter--its a *self*-confidence issue) and 2. that a lot of other ppl have this problem too.

I think that I uderstand how you feel. As you can see in my profile, I am also "not sure if I have it or not", but in fact I am unsure very little. In the past I have been told, and believed, that I was a bad and rude guy, and I tried hard to become better, but without much success. Finally I was ready to give up and become a hermit. And then by chance I came across AS, and found people here, who have helped me to discover what it is to be understood, accepted and liked, and that it is OK to be myself. I wish that I had skills and strength to change myself to be able to more fully belong to the society, but I had to admit that I would never be able to accomplish that. I realized that I had no choice but to "hide behind a label", or otherwise I would waste my life in futile attempts to mold myself into who I am not. The moment I accepted this my life has taken a most unexpected turn for the better. Suffice is to say that I will be sending my first Valentine card today.



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16 Feb 2005, 3:12 pm

Welcome to the club newall you have joined the elite, the few the proud the marine..oop the aspies

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16 Feb 2005, 4:59 pm

Its not that Aspies don't enjoy socializing so much as they dont know how or interact well, however ever that does not exclude the possibility in all situations. I dont even feel certain I have it, and if so to what degree, even I have been diagnosed.