A Call for Genetic Purification

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Apparantly some people have all the correct genes for autism, yet dont develop an ASD.

I suspect its a combination of genetic and environmental factors. Perhaps we should be more focussed on the environmental issues - like not consuming chemi-food or pumping tons of mercury into the atmosphere each day?

3 part video on autism & mercury toxicity;

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diese Adolf Hitler Notwendigkeit zu gehen.

While I agree with you that Autism is most likely a result of certain genes present and environmental factors activating the genes; the evidence supporting the mercury claim is circumstantial at best... There are many Autistics who have little or no contact with anything even remotley connected with mercury who have had Autism from birth.

I believe it's more likely that Autism is a sort of mental defence mechanism...When an infant encounters something so stressful or has little or no human contact (like I did for several hours after birth) then the psyche will most likely withdraw into itself.

I see low functioning as the ultimate withdrawal.. With higher functioning as something else...
My theory isn't fully complete as there are many questions I can not answer myself. But I don't believe Autism to be caused by any type of consumption of chemicals (natural or otherwise), more so a result of some negative experience.

I agree that Autism (HFA, MFA, LFA, Asperger's syndrome, ADD/ADHD) is a disease that children and adults are terribly unlucky to have to live with, not to mention their parents and families' struggles to live with their illness. Maybe you'd like to get involved in campaigning to help Autistic people and to do more research to outreach and get early intervention into Autism? Check out Cure Autism Now.

I enjoy it when trolls come here (well some of the time). I shows our resolve to be recognised as something more than a mere "disease", and I will have to say that the Autism Spectrum is more than a disease. But I can easily see how those who only have contact with the far worse lower end of the spectrum would come to the conclusion that it is a "disease", though having said that, I went and looked up the meaning of "disease"


The first definition is out...oh so very out. Autism is neither a pathological condition nor an infection. It's never been proved to be a genetic defect, though I believe genes do play a part (but I don't see autism as a defect..though Low Functioning may be a defect of High Functioning). Environmental stress does indeed play a part in Autism (in my belief), but so does it in "burnout" and that's not considered a "disease". And so far, I don't think anyone's really agreed on a concrete set of symptoms to characterise Autism with...

That leaves definition two.. While many would consider Autism to be "abnormal" and in some respects it probably is..when the proper definition of "abnormal" is taken into account. But it is in no way harmful. The only harm that could come to an Autistic is from external sources..Other people such as trolls, bullies, bigots. And other sources like social prejudice, ill-conceived "cures", improperly trained psychological professionals, and so on...

While I was at it, I looked up the meaning of "epidemic"..



Autism isn't spreading rapidly, it only seems to be with increased awareness and more prevalent diagnoses (many of which were probably completley unnessecary). Nor is Autism infectious and I can only laugh at that...
And Autism doesn't affect many individuals...In fact it seems to be a bit haphazard, researchers haven't even been able to predict if someone will or will not have it... (as far as I know)

So I've concluded that Autism is neither a disease nor an epidemic..

I don't know how you've come to the conclusion that Autistics can not distinquish between themselves and their environment...And in any case, Humans are of the Earth, without It there would be no us..I find your opinion that we should dominate the planet to be a little disturbing..Especially given humanity's history, at our current rate we will destroy our only planet, our only environment. Perhaps it's not Autistic who cannot distinquish between themselves and their environment, but more so that non-autistics cannot identify the need for their surrounding environment...

You speak of Autism as though it were like AIDS, but as I've said Autism isn't harmful in and of itself, it's simply a different way of being. And if there's one thing non-autistics (and some autistics) have shown they can not simply tolerate it's different people...
Human kind are built with an instinctual need to group together in like groups...Tribes if you will.. They would see anyone who is different from their group to be a threat, one that needs eliminating.. Look at what happened to "non-Aryans" in German before and during WWII. And what happened to black people in America and parts of Africa, and now what is happening to white people in parts of Africa... Humans have little capacity for tolerance of members of other groups...

Sure humans have evolved, but only so far as the ability to be members of many groups... Maybe Autism is (amongst many other things) the ability to rise above prejudice and this tribal grouping, with real tolerance...

I surely know that people like Right_Honourable_Weyoun have little or no tolerance, and it saddens me..

Also disturbs me that someone like that could use a Star Trek name like that...

That's a cool website! I'd never heard of it before. Thanks for posting it.

It's unbelievably easy to troll this place, I know, but please, don't feed it anymore.

Would not be surprised if it were the same delusional goons who trolled AFF.

The very trait that causes humanity to be a scourge upon the earth.

I would say that aspies should breed faster for this reason, except that many of them seem to be just as environmentally clueless and callous as neurotypicals.

I've already been sterilized, anyway....after havign six kids.

haha

Forget such piddlies as Autism. I think we should breed out OLD AGE by choosing our mates not on attractiveness and personal compatibility but by interviewing each potential partner and choosing based on the longevity of their parents, grandparents, etc.

I want to turn us into a race of non-sex-crazed centennials (or even older). Evolution has a blind-spot for middle- and old-age illnesses which eventually kill us. We must BREED IT OUT!

Now who's with me?!

Can we please not assume every person who brings up controversial issues is a troll? Maybe he is a troll, but wont it make us that much better to treat his issue with maturity? I know a lot of people here disagree that controlled breeding is EVER okay, but that idea has been explorered. I know for some even stopping to consider controlled breeding, instead of immediately denouncing it is like approaching too closely the jaws of a beast, but thinking and doing are two different things. And there is plenty of public fear and disagreement towards any eugenics for our mature consideration of it to not make much of a dent.

You have a point but I do think this one is a troll. Or an ignoramus.

Look, if you want to discuss an issue that you realize will be controversial, it's a good start to get your facts right. This one didn't, and for all I know never even tried to. Thinking and doing are indeed different things; I doubt this particular troll will ever do anything to actually act on its thoughts, but sometimes thinking loud is enough.

I have to say one thing, I'm not diseased because I have AS, my oldest son is not diseased because he has Autism, my youngest son is not 'normal' because he's non-autistic. Sorry but someone advertising Cure Autism Now honestly has no clues of what that organization stands for... they may as well support abortion because if someone ever develops a prenatal test, you'll see Autistics/Aspies go the way of the 89-90% of Down Syndrome babies that never take their first breath of life because of judgement against them because they are different and God forbid the non-autistics ever learn to accept differences and gain understanding and acceptance.

And to tell people to get sterilized and not have kids for fear of passing on Autism/Aspergers... you're one person I'm glad I'll never have to see as a parent one day. We don't inflict torture and all on those we live with... if someone thinks that, they are just as intolerant as the intolerance they promote. I love my children and I don't care what label I carry or they carry, everyone has things they contribute to the world and without them the world would be missing some special individuals. I don't know where some people get off telling people how to live their lives on the Autism spectrum especially suggestion sterilization... they are the same that would gripe and complain if we told them how they should live. We are born the way we are. We don't choose that, it's the life we live and how we live it that we choose to make the most of or choose not to live at all and it'll be what we did in our lives that we'll be remembered for and I will go down as never promoting trying to push a group of wonderful people to extinction because others can't handle us or don't bother trying.

It is remarkable how unoriginal you all are being in response to me. Comparing me and my ideas to the Nazis? Come on, that has been a standby for arguments on the Internet (and Usenet before that) since the late 80s, early 90s. Look up Godwin's Law if you don't believe me.

As for not doing research, you have done even less, as is obvious from your responses.

Come up with an original subject and we will respond in kind. I take it that you don't deny your lack of research, then?

EDIT: But I should follow my own advice and not feed the troll. Therefore, good luck with the research. Let me know if you come up with anything.