What things/lies did you use to believe due to AS?

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03 Feb 2009, 6:48 pm

I beileved a lot of bad things but the WORST was that I really believed I was damned - I thought that I was lke Esau. God loved Jacob and hated Esau.

I thouight this because I grew up in a wacky church.

THen I went to churches that believed in predestination.

That God made people "bad" and unsavable. How would you know? You knew because that person had no "Fruit" I was a troubled child and a very troubled teenager and a trouble adult. I wanted to be "good" and be a loving Christian, but with this autism, i was very much alone and snapped when sense issues drove me crazy.

My mom said God would never just damn a little girl and my Dad said the same. It was not them. But it was other folks and stuff I read.

THat made me go even nuttier. and more depressed.

So while I thoiughts lots of stuff, that was the wrost.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:01 pm

I'm feeling slightly stupid at the moment because I still believe some of the things mentioned in this thread... :?



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04 Feb 2009, 4:32 am

I used to believe that when I watched TV shows-- including cartoons-- I was watching real people being shown on screen. And by that, I mean real people being followed around with videocameras, or whatever.

I used to believe that people really had my best interests in mind.

I used to believe that if I didn't like a movie, style of music, or tv show that everyone else loved, that they knew something I didn't.

I used to believe people honestly wanted to make life better, not just complain and give themselves a false sense of security.

I used to believe the ability to socialize was god's gift to man.

I used to believe there was possibly SOME way I could find a way to verbally communicate with people, and be accepted.


I'm so glad I've wised up so dramatically since then.



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04 Feb 2009, 8:05 am

Mum once told me that unicorns went extinct 100 years ago. :roll: :lol:


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04 Feb 2009, 8:29 am

honestly i never believed anything i could not verify.



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04 Feb 2009, 8:34 am

notbrianna wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that not everybody thinks in English.


I think in English and it's not my first language. it's my verbal language of choice though, at least as long as I can't find a simpler one.


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04 Feb 2009, 8:39 am

anna-banana wrote:
notbrianna wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that not everybody thinks in English.


I think in English and it's not my first language. it's my verbal language of choice though, at least as long as I can't find a simpler one.


This is an interesting one...my languages teacher says that in a language class you have to try and think in the language you are learning, which is why you shouldn't chatter in a language class because you can't think in French when the person next to you is chattering in English. I've tried thinking in foreign languages, but the only problem is that they don't teach us the foreign words for most of my thoughts!


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04 Feb 2009, 8:46 am

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
notbrianna wrote:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that not everybody thinks in English.


I think in English and it's not my first language. it's my verbal language of choice though, at least as long as I can't find a simpler one.


This is an interesting one...my languages teacher says that in a language class you have to try and think in the language you are learning, which is why you shouldn't chatter in a language class because you can't think in French when the person next to you is chattering in English. I've tried thinking in foreign languages, but the only problem is that they don't teach us the foreign words for most of my thoughts!


yeah I used to have the same problem, up until a few years ago I'd think in a mixture of words in different languages that would just spring up in my mind (there are so many that are impossible to translate, yet very useful) but it never bothered me since I don't think 100% in words most of the time anyway.

I agree that it's good to think in the language you're trying to learn, the gaps will eventually be filled anyway. it's just a bit exhausting to be verbalising your thoughts internally so much.


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04 Feb 2009, 8:56 am

I used to believe that an item which was described as having falling of the back of a truck was a literal statement (and not a euphemism for stolen goods). I was unaware of the true meaning of this statement until I was 20 :?



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04 Feb 2009, 11:49 am

I used to believe that managers were in that position because they had proven formation and skills in managing people - and not as compensation for services, personal favors, instead of a raise or had proven good professional level.


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04 Feb 2009, 4:11 pm

My first grade teacher pointed to a map of Minnesota and the "two dots" where Minneapolis/St. Paul and said that "most people live in those two dots" so until I was 13 years old and got online, I really thought that almost everyone in the world lived in Minneapolis and St. Paul.

My dad told me as a kid that you didn't know if you were a boy or a girl unti you were 12. My whole family played along and even said that my sister was a boy until she turned 12 and turned into a girl (her name is Danielle, she said it used to Daniel), and that I would become a boy at any time.

I used to lucidly dream there was a fragel hole (to get to Fragel Rock) in my basement, I fully believed this until we moved out of that house when I was 11.



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04 Feb 2009, 4:26 pm

This is a brilliant thread. I believed that if I just worked that much harder, it would finally work out. And that if I got more edumificated it would help make things clear, AND that I'd finally fit in, and be excepted. It was just to do MORE on all aspects of things.

I've learned that I was backwards. LESS is what I should be doing. The less I do, the better it gets, all around.



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05 Feb 2009, 4:55 pm

I used to believe that anything people said was spontaneous, rather than mostly well thought out.


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05 Feb 2009, 5:36 pm

I just learned lot of things my mother did to me were empty threats. I knew her threatening my brothers and I to dump us on the side of the road was a bluff she did but I didn't know that until I was 11 when I found out it's illegal to abandon your children. Well they sure taught me how to listen and behave and follow the rules. Being literal can be a bliss.

I found out NT kids don't take their parents threats seriously. I think parents should at least follow through what they say they are going to do or else their kids won't learn to listen and their threats would just be useless and they complain their kids never listen to them? Well how stupid can they be in their parenting? My mother followed through but I think she was faking them to make it look like she was going to do it to give us a scare but I took it all literal and I was actually throwing things away because they were in the wrong spot. My mother faked throwing something away because it was on the floor and she was sweeping and she said she was throwing someone's toy away and we all jump up and race for it and pick it up.
But my mother had always followed through what punishments she was going to give us so that's probably why I followed her empty threats. She was serious about other things I thought she was serious she would pack all my toys away if I am not good and I would have nothing to play with.



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06 Feb 2009, 2:45 am

Spokane_Girl wrote:
I found out NT kids don't take their parents threats seriously.


That's how I realized I must have some inborn thought difference. Because in retrospect, I realized that my siblings had always seen through my mother's "educational" lies and I had swallowed them all. I devoted my life to trying to be kind to everyone as mother had always said we should, while my siblings devoted their lives to pretending to be kind and fooling everyone for their own interests. They got what mother meant: "Pretend to be kind and you can get away with anything" rather than the literal meaning: "Be kind". Mother had assumed we'd all get the real meaning behind her words. She must've been shocked when she realized I was trying to be genuinely kind and considerate to everyone all the time.


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06 Feb 2009, 4:23 am

Most of mine are too personal and have caused great emotional devastation to me- lies told by my parents, grandparents, other relatives, men and boys that I shouldn't have trusted. Was this AS or denial? There's a fine line in some situations, or it's both and even more too.

I've seen some NTs buy into some pretty dumb things, like more elaborate schemes built up by shady people, only to defend these evil people when they do something really wrong, I guess as a group peer pressure response or some kind of emotional co-dependency.