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It is HARD to challenge a race car driver that has no car to race!

Zukenkerl, let me for a moment, try to be the OP advocate. He is, I believe, in the process of showing how NT society handicaps Aspies by making it painfully difficult, and frequently impossible, for us to contribute productively to a rapidly advancing technological civilization which desperately needs our input. He has figured out a way to persuade NTs that our memory functions in a significantly different way to theirs, a way which is economically viable in a fast-paced and competitive world.

Cramming us into a mold made for NTs is both futile and foolish, but the real issue is that we are being unnecessarily ground to a total halt [via disallowance for the unconventional way we process memory], when in fact we are designed to mentally fly as close to light-speed as we can. That's how we're genetically hardwired. We're driven to excell, but it has to be on our terms. Otherwise, we damage rather easily and lose interest in competing on any level which might prove socially or financially expedient. If our talents are truly desired, then they must be earned through respect and trust. Abuse us, and we won't do anything for NTs. Sure it's our loss. But it's their loss as well.

His elegantly simple theory [which we perhaps don't deserve to receive details about--given all the needless flaming] also has the advantage of putting the brutal flaws of society under a mega-watt searchlight where they must inevitably be exposed for what they are. Plus the fact that a good many NTs are fed up with our social system and want it changed anyway, regardless of the problem children. OP intends I think--to transform the fate of the autistic individual from pariah to potentially valuable contributor. He will argue that we should be given a chance and that it must address vital genetic differences in the way we process memory... for if it doesn't, it will be no chance at all. Our memories are designed to serve our intense focus of concentration including an orientation towards fine-tuned, very refined, processing of detail and precision.....skills which are positively essential in furthering research and development in science and technology.

Technological advancement is perhaps the strongest possible inducement for social change. And this is not even considering equity, honesty, integrity, reliability, sensibility and compassion...values which arguably take a backseat to financial gain in a world hell-bent on getting to our goal as fast as possible and making more money than our competitors while doing it.

A winning argument will emphasize getting the most bang for your buck in a highly competitive race for technological excellence......while simultaneously going a long way toward simplifying the hotly contested enigma of autism..which is becoming more pervasive by the day..or so it seems.

Last edited by alba on 01 Mar 2009, 2:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well, I agree to THAT degree, but he doesn't seem to be talking about THAT. He said this was the cause of our condition.

Dealing with the memory component of our "condition" is also the cure for it. Once NT society is shown to irreparably damage our memory function [by forcing us to perform in a way that is virtually impossible given our genetic predisposition, i.e., neurological wiring], it will be seen in a totally different light.

Of course this ignores that arbitrary concepts should be avoided if one wishes to produce useful theories/hypotheses and models for thinking.


As the OP plainly states, the entire point of them posting is to attempt to get a robust objection, and the OP clearly expects this to happen in the absence of us knowing what or why the theory is. Apparently there is some doubt us plebs would even understand the theory, just as in the OP's mind most people apparently do not know what an article is....

But of course, it is very sensible for the OP to expect robust objections to an unexplained "theorem" are plausible, but we are just trouble makers for attempting to do exactly that due to how implausible it is.


Obviously; the only reason the OP is posting (according to the OP) is to get objections that cannot be realistically made without revealing the theorem that the OP refuses to reveal. Therefore the OP is very sensible and we are all just challenging the OP to be confrontational....obviously.

Obviously, it is implausible that we are genuine because how can we have any robust objections if we do not know this theory, and meanwhile the OP is quite sensible to expect we might provide genuine and robust objections without knowing the theory....aha.

Now just one question, alba are you and Kangoogle for real?

I simply do not find the OP's theory credible on the basis of information given, and the OP simply refuses (or is just plain unable) to give any further information. The OP claims not to care (whether or not we believe the OP's theory), and apparently just wants robust objections (which they apparently intend to profit from academically) to a theory they will not explain, while insulting those the OP is hoping will do them the favour of providing these objections.

This is an incredibly shoddy and disrespectful way to treat people, and if you cannot understand this, then in my view, the OP is not the only one lacking insight.

Short term memory is so vitally important that once it is gone, we basically become useless, a shadow of our former selves. Add dangerous anti-psychotics into the mix, and the scenario is even more dismal.

We are genetically wired to use our short term memory in a certain way. This is our autistic neuoro template. When we are then socially conditioned according to the NT template, we not only can't perform optimally....we may not be able to perform at all.

If we start trying to play social games, process the behaviors into our short term memory, and activate the NT memory retrieval routine.... we are attempting to reroute our autistic neural circuitry, and eliminate our autistic wiring. The more we try to use the NT template, the more our autistic template deteriorates and goes haywire. By forcing us NOT to think the way we are wired to think and by distorting the way we are wired to use short term memory.....the NT pattern becomes superimposed upon the autistic pattern and can destroy it.






















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Last edited by alba on 02 Mar 2009, 1:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

alba, memory is not an actual real thing; this is not an insignificant and aside from the point fact for any theory that seeks to use memory as its explanation.

What was the question?

Evidence?

The NT template being the only template ever used in all its many many variations, even by autistic parents?

Memory is not a real thing and short term memory describes processes that have little to do with social performance.

Trolling my own threads. Of course. More like you are here because you don't like my idea, or more to the point I have one.

English is the academic language - pretty much every academic has had to learn it. Of the very few who don't speak English, or at least can write in it, they have to be very good to get away with it. Good enough to have someone translate all their papers anyway.

IF your "PROGRAM" was any GOOD then MORE PEOPLE would have BOUGHT it.

ERM - OK.


Whatever, the point is still valid. Most here know, and many even readily admit, that AS IS part of the spectrum, even if just defined as such.[/quote]



YIKES HECK, STILL LATIN. FRANCA FREUD
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What a great stim you have here....

So maybe, perhaps, I might have an idea. You are kind of showing the hypocrisy here of your whole line, are you not?
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.p ... 005.0.html
I swear dupe accounts are against WP rules....

Actually, it wasn't really advertised. And banks have tracked their documents down to precisely where it is, even when loaned out or moved. That is better than not even being able to prove it exists.[/quote]

As for the others??????



I have only one other account here, and haven't used it in YEARS! I believe you have at LEAST one other account you used FAR more frequently. I'm not even sure about any of this stuff you are talking about. As for the HYPOCRISY you speak of? WHERE IS THE PROOF you said you had? You made it sound FANTASTIC.

As for intensity squared, a person claiming to own it contacted me here, so I don't want to say much. Still, it seems like another system I saw that basically tried to EXTORT money from others. I won't even say how, as it may encourage still MORE copycats. I didn't fall for that, didn't fall for intensity squared, and figure I am through with this garbage. As I said earlier, I just consider you a troll.

As for the others??????
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I could think of a very useful program which you could use. Its called a macro. What this macro does is it corrects all your posts so they look less like arrogant drivel. Well at first glance anyway.

Prove it. I am not Calandale btw, just in case you thought that...
(though you might have difficulty proving it if you get banned for your dupe)

It will be out there soon enough - when I have chance to write a book on it.

How does Intensity extort any kind on money? WP is the only place which has adverts or asks for donations I gather.



Nice knowing you. Etc...

Autistics use ST memory for processing sensory data and details related to our special interests and other in-depth topics. When we are forced to process social behaviors into our ST memory...we can't adequately deal with our sensory issues. Generally we have an overload of sense data and a deficiency of social data in our ST memory. We are also pretty slow, sometimes ret*d, dealing with social data.


I don't understand how you can say "short term memory describes processes that have little to do with social performance." What about social performance doesn't involve memory? Memory is the crux of social performance or any performance for that matter. Without ST memory, we are quite useless as far as getting anything done and/or doing it safely. It needs to be stated for the record that an individual with severely defective ST memory requires nearly 24/7/365 supervision. Such an individual is not a stand-alone program. When autistics have their stand-alone status ripped away from them, they become [more of] a burden to society. NT society is causing more of them to be helpless and useless by socialization techniques.

After socialization our ST memory system is often damaged or dysfunctional. Obviously, our chances of performing optimally require using the equipment we have been genetically endowed with [even enhancing it] and not unintentionally [or intentionally] damaging or destroying it. Forcing us to abandon the priorities we have established based upon our neuoro differences....is detrimental to our mental health and eventually to our survival.

If the reason autistics can't conform to NT society is due to the way we encode, store and retrieve data in our ST memory [vital to our processing information], then there's no reason to force us to conform.

Well, many ARE losing a lot! They are basically losing the collateral for loans that have already been made. I guess you don't understand the concept.



OK, you don't program either.



Actually, that wouldn't stop me, but I am not interested enough. Oh yeah, the Mods know about the dupe, etc... I don't use it, so NO PROBLEM! It was NEVER a "puppet". Oh yeah, I NEVER said anything about calendale. I was talking about another, but that IS an interesting statement you made!



OK, you are ALREADY too late! But why write a book? Maybe if you write such a book, I may provide it for free, if you don't. Naw, it wouldn't be worth more than a laugh!



Actually, I was talking about the OTHER site. Intensitysquared is merely similar. Adverts and asking for donations is TOTALLY different, because it is voluntary. Hey, alex has to pay for the system SOMEHOW. The actual use is 100% free.

BTW That's a nice foil hat you're wearing! (sarc, pat) Is that your george washington impersonation?