Gender Identity Disorder and Asperger's Syndrnome.

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Do you have gender issues?
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Yes, I do have gender issues, but not AS 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
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16 Mar 2009, 11:32 am

I happen to believe in objective logic. Sex is simply a matter of chromosomes, bone structure, and reproductive organs. Just because a girl likes playing with trucks or a boy likes playing with dolls doesn't mean that he or she is of the opposite gender (Yes I understand that "gender" is used for the supposed mental sex in sociology but I consider that notion total BS). How you are socialized does not change anatomical biology or alter your genetics. I believe in objective biology over subjective sociological drivel.



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16 Mar 2009, 11:36 am

Like autism, I always have been confused why people consider it to be a disorder. Why cannot we just accept people as they are? If someone I previously knew to be a girl asks me to call him John and refer to him with masculine pronouns, I have no problem with that at all.

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16 Mar 2009, 11:39 am

Linasgirl wrote:
Like autism, I always have been confused why people consider it to be a disorder. Why cannot we just accept people as they are? If someone I previously knew to be a girl asks me to call him John and refer to him with masculine pronouns, I have no problem with that at all.

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Perhaps people who believe in biology and objective reality would have a problem with it. Why is it that someone can socially change their gender but not their race or ethnicity for example?



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16 Mar 2009, 11:47 am

I was somewhat of a tomboy when I was a kid, but overall, I was more into girly things like Lisa Frank and Littlest Pet Shop. But I wouldn't wear pink or especially a dress.

Nowadays, I am very girly. But I do prefer hanging out with boys over girls. When it comes to girls, there's just too much drama typically going on. And with boys, I can just be myself. Plus guys also like hanging out with me because they can say anything to me and they think I'm pretty. 8)



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16 Mar 2009, 11:48 am

You know, I understand what everyone is saying here about it not being a problem etc., but that doesn't address my question and I also wonder if any of the people who think it's so clearly just a matter of acceptence, have any children of their own? You can say all you want about people accepting others but the truth of the matter is that, a 14 year old boy with asperger's who dresses like a girl is going to have a lot of hardships and difficulties in the world. Is there anyone that does not agree with that? If so, please tell me where this place is. And furthermore, it is not only NT people who would have difficulties accepting someone who has gender issues. My question originally, and still is, has anyone ever experienced a similar situation as I am and furthermore, does anyone have any good coping mechanisms for someone who has Asperger's and gender issues?



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16 Mar 2009, 1:45 pm

Please do not confuse gender identity with sexuality which many people do. Some of us were born with both genders activated so to me the concept of male/female 'roles' seems like a completely foreign concept.


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16 Mar 2009, 1:57 pm

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Please do not confuse gender identity with sexuality which many people do. Some of us were born with both genders activated so to me the concept of male/female 'roles' seems like a completely foreign concept.



true in my case also.

male/female- refers to sexuality.
masculine/feminine refers to gender

most people just interchange these terminologies these days.
i prefer the above distinction.

where that leaves me i do not know.
i may well have higher testosterone levels.but have not been tested.
felt like a boy growing up. Looked like a boy out of school uniform, dressed like a boy too, was mistaken for a boy by adults who did not know me.
(endlessly.)

present as female sexually.
sexual preference split right down the middle.

feel like i have a male and female brain (as opposed to a masculine and feminine brain.)

i'm just half boy and always will be, which is quite magnficent really.
But i present as feminine now - feminine in basic tomboy clothes (work clothes or jeans and singlets.) work boots or thongs.



16 Mar 2009, 2:29 pm

This is another BS condition. So what if people want to be a male or female, do doctors have to turn that into a condition too? :roll:


In that case I had a gender identity disorder because I wished I was a boy when I was little only because I thought their "pee pees" were cool. They could pee standing and could go without pulling their pants down and I thought it was real neat what they could do with them.


The more I keep seeing conditions for everything, I keep laughing. Now I am waiting for a word for ignorance. Has a condition been made up for it yet?


I have a couple fake disorders already.

Executive dysfunction
Adult Baby syndrome


I can't think of any others. I will keep looking for conditions that fit me and laugh for how they turned my other personality or faults into a condition. Doctors or scientists sure go too far with labels.



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16 Mar 2009, 2:30 pm

What is adult baby syndrome?


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16 Mar 2009, 2:35 pm

Spokane - i thinki i agree.
i coud not give a toss about a "disorder" in relation to my gender and sexual makeup.
not a toss.
i just know how it is for me.

anything that proclaims differences in sexuality/gender is a DISORDER is a crock.

Half the battle of my life was that i was told how i was made,made me who and what i was not.
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maybe i could be sexually disordered with an IQ lower than the geniuses here.

there is also evidence to suggest sociopathy and the word has been bandied about outside various specialists' "rooms" in my past.
the woman i most relate to is the black autistic girl in the British dvd danielsmyname posted the other day.



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16 Mar 2009, 2:38 pm

A large part of our collective problem is that we've been to much at the whim of the experts, the school teachers, the psychologists and others. We are all perfectly 'normal' as individuals but become a problem for 'society' to accomodate.


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16 Mar 2009, 2:42 pm

yup.
so my intention is to slide into old age truly happy with who i am.



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16 Mar 2009, 2:45 pm

Marrshu wrote:
I was just curious, who else is autistic and has Gender Identity Disorder? I've heard the theory of the extreme male brain before, however, I'm wondering if there's any truth to that...

I myself have Gender Identity Issues as well as Asperger's Syndrome.


Well I don't think I have a gender identity disorder I just have issues with gender. Some people think humans fit into these perfect cookie cut outs which is IMO a joke.

I believe I made a thread a while back about feeling more like an entity than just a gender. I think it's the labels that get thrown out that agitate me...women are this, women are that, women don't like, women like....it's annoying to be included into a category I don't feel is befitting.


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16 Mar 2009, 2:46 pm

We are in the end of all things our own 'experts' in all respects. The 'talking heads' of society are false prophets propping up the stagesets of convention.


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16 Mar 2009, 2:56 pm

garyww wrote:
What is adult baby syndrome?



People who like to wear diapers, drink out of bottles, suck on pacifiers, have a desire to be young again so they regress.


http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... 60/11/1932

Another word for it is also "infantilism." I never see it as a condition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilic_infantilism

At least I don't go this far like this fella did:

http://hotmedicalnews.com/unusual-psych ... -syndrome/

I don't go public except for diapers under my clothes and I did wear one of my baby outfits under my normal clothes one time not too long ago. The closest thing I have gone public for it was on a nude beach. Our group got some curious visitors :wink: and my bf and I got funny looks from people when we walked around the beach together. I just turned it into a game by seeing how many looks I get and I looked for reactions but didn't get any.



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16 Mar 2009, 2:59 pm

That's interesting so thanks for telling me. I can see why it would be an niche for many people. I was a late term baby and whould have preferred to stay in the womb forever but I guess that is illegal in this incarnation.


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