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I don't think that's very fair...nicotine is more addicting (addictive?) than heroin, it's not like you can just quit, especially if you've been smoking for a very long time.

My dad's been trying to quit for forever, but he just can't shake it...it sucks to see so much of what little money we have going towards such vices, but what can I do about it?

There is nothing better than sucking that old smoke deep down into your lungs and getting the 'brain thing' going on the concentration front as you peer through a microscope looking at some weird special interest thing. Thee packs a day and pushing four and doing so since I was around 11 or 12 years old.
I quit two months ago and I'm looking for something to take the place of periods of enjoying intense concentration.

mum has always smoked around am,but have never smoked or tried it,no interest.
am ok when people [usually staff or the home manager] ask if they can smoke around am instead of just forcing it with no idea it was coming,the only problem am have is when mum does it on top of the cats,have never liked that or when am had rats there and she smoked ontop of them as well-and found out last year the stuff sticks to animals furr which they lick it in,not good.
sister [who is aspie] has never smoked,or tried it and she's always telling mum to smoke in her own smoking room,not in the rooms the cats are in,it's mums house but she also needs to think of the much more physically vulnerable cats that are in her/dads care to.

I might be silly most of the time on here, but I do actually work hard(ish) and I like the facts to be correct.

I dont want to look argumentative, but MOA-A is not a transmitter it is actually monoamine oxidase type A, (one of) the enzymes which breaks down classical (monoamine) neurotransmitters . But in the end result and principle Ephemeralla is right- inhibition of MAOs (and depletion by smoking) is an older antidepressant strategy. But unlike the medication at least you can smoke and still eat cheese and drink red wine!

There is a good review by Fowler et al in Neurotoxicology, I think 2003 issue (should be on pubmed, is a respected peer reviewed journal) My memory is not always good -I cant remember the exact title probably search via Monoamines and Tobacco

There are diverse species of nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (NAchRs) throughout the brain, stimulation of which are associated with wakefulness and attention, and some postmortem and gene studies have shown altered NAchR receptor types and density in ASDs. One I could find from my old dissertation that should be accessable via web of science, pub med etc is
Martin-Ruiz et al ,2004 Molecular analysis of nicotinic receptor expression in autism, Brain Res Mol Brain Res. 123(1-2):81-90. (realtime PCR being a reliable investigative strategy, and again, a respected journal)


So we ARE self medicating and I am therefore justified in smoking. It's my receptors fault.

My language only seems to be fluent when I write about science , so again, apologies for disagreeing given WP lately I dont want to look elitist or anything:) I'm too working class to be allowed to do that

No, and I'm not bothered by other people's smoke.

No, and I'm not bothered by other people's smoke.

I used to love smoking - especially when i could do it indoors. I liked the taste, liked the smell, liked how it improved my concentration, how it gave me an excuse to go walk round the block when I was stressed at work. I liked how it filled up socially awkward moments.

I gave up because my gums started bleeding and it was a bit embarrassing having blood-marks on a sandwich I was eating. Horrible, I know. Sorry. Other than that I would probably still smoke.

Smokers Suck Butts.

Society has to find someway to make people quit. Giving out cancer warnings and promoting anti-smoking adds don't seem to be working. If raising the prices ridiculously high is the only way to get people to quit, so be it.

The really strange thing about smoking is that even today there is no hard scientificc evidence that smoking has a direct link with Cancer which really makes you wonder who we can trust nowadays.

You are right! My bad! And I'm a person who likes MAO-A inhibitors. I do respond well to MAO-A inhibitors and have problems with all the rest. My brain fell out as I typed that post.

Thank you so much for info about the NAchRs link and autism. I suppose I should get a bigger picture.

I currently occasionally take an old MAOI, Nardil, for a short while if I feel I might be falling into a depressive brain activity state. But I cut it up very small and then take a small amount sublingually. This avoids the hypertensive problems as it bypasses the portal vein route and liver metabolism, so the smaller does is effective. Since the MAOI is irreversible, I don't have to take it on consecutive days, either. This cuts down on the hypertensive problems.

But I only do this when I think I need an MAOI intervention, which is not often.

I suppose I could also use nicotine patches, but who wants to get hooked again?

Smoking fine cigars. It's no cheaper than smoking cigarettes, but you don't inhale and the rich, good quality smoke is really a quite satisfying oral, aromatic experience. Actually a good cigar is much more sensually satisfying than the oral cigarette smoking.

Between the patches and good cigars, I was totally weaned off cigarettes and then patches, too. Eventually I stopped smoking the cigars and developed other oral stims.

I want to quit smoking, but my mind goes in a fog when I go a long period without cigarettes.

Besides, winners never quit.

I used to be a social smoker (aka drunk smoker) only, but stopped after I went on the pill. I didn't want to get a blood clot. Now I just don't want to risk my health, though I do still drink, and have had/ may continue using drugs.

Smokers smell, cough up phlegm and it did start to hurt my throat.

I remember at college someone offered me a smoke, and I said 'I've got a cold' then they said 'yeah me too' and I always wondered why they smoke while they were sick. I never thought that they were addicted to it. I never gave into peer pressure. I just did those things because I wanted to.

You hit the nail on the head there. Anxiety and boredom, yup ^.^

I've only been smoking for a little over a year. I could quit now if I wanted to. How strange that I don't (fairly stupid as well). Truth is, it's still combating my anxiety and boredom quite well. Haha!

*sigh*

I had just been diagnosed with my second case of pneumonia (at the tender age of 28.) I was in the grip of a cold rage against cigarettes... I determined then and there that I was done with those things. I threw away my last half-a-pack and never smoked a cig again. Quit cold turkey, and made it stick somehow.