Book which has learned me how to act with neurotypicals

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23 Mar 2009, 7:39 am

There are many guides how to help Aspergians cooperate in neurotypical environment. But they are almost all based on assumption that we Aspergians want to play submissive role in relation with neurotypicals and not become leaders.

Therefore, I was forced to seek inspiration in another place and when I worked in small community local library, I found this.

http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htm

What you do not realise over neurotypicals, is how much hierarchies matter for them. Either you are on top, or you are on bottom. If you are on bottom, you have no respect. If you are on top, you have lot of respect.

Class background is also important.

I would not be surprised if Aspergians from poor families are generally less successful and less functioning than Aspergians from high class families. I think it spurs entirely different reaction from surroundings if you are from family which live on margins than if you are from family which is living on top of society.



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23 Mar 2009, 8:38 am

Zyborg wrote:
There are many guides how to help Aspergians cooperate in neurotypical environment. But they are almost all based on assumption that we Aspergians want to play submissive role in relation with neurotypicals and not become leaders.



If you want to lead the Blind, then you will have to blind yourself. Do you really want to do that?

Only madmen want to lead or rule. Leading is something to be done only at need and in an emergency.

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23 Mar 2009, 9:03 am

ruveyn wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
There are many guides how to help Aspergians cooperate in neurotypical environment. But they are almost all based on assumption that we Aspergians want to play submissive role in relation with neurotypicals and not become leaders.



If you want to lead the Blind, then you will have to blind yourself. Do you really want to do that?

Only madmen want to lead or rule. Leading is something to be done only at need and in an emergency.

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I am naturally inclined to take command and to give orders. It lies in my nature.



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23 Mar 2009, 11:39 am

Are you sure it's a natural talent, or is it just a desire?

I have seen a lot of people who try to be dominant and get beaten up for it because they are not good at it. I've seen other people who actually are dominant; and often times they do it because everyone knows they are capable of hurting others if their wishes aren't obeyed. That only lasts as long as their power is higher than everyone else's, and then they are deposed and find they have no friends because no one liked them, only feared them. The only real leaders I have seen don't seem like leaders at all, at first glance; only people just tend to like and respect them more than most. Paradoxically, they're usually the ones who spend a lot of time doing things for others; they're the first to volunteer to help with things that need to be done, and they're the ones who organize other people to get those things done... they seem somehow to be just more likable, and people naturally respect them. They tend to "lead from the front"--by example, working alongside the people they lead. I call these people ultra-NT because they are not just driven to connect, but ultra-competent at connecting people, placing themselves at the center of an interconnected network.

Asperger's style leadership seems to consist mostly of putting forth very good ideas that other people are interested in. I don't know if you could call it leadership at all; it's more like publishing a good article in a scientific journal and having other people base their research on it.


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23 Mar 2009, 12:01 pm

I come from an upper middle class family. I do have a high IQ but I would probably be considered low functioning, due to my MR functional IQ.


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23 Mar 2009, 12:08 pm

It could also be a "need", instead of a natural talent or desire.
Some of us seem to have a lot of needs and they need the "world" to take care for their needs to survive...