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27 May 2009, 8:05 am

im an angry person but would never hurt anyone for no reason ...only time I hurt someone was when he threatened my little brother I turned then hooked him and stomped him out of rage that he would go so low to hurt my 6yr old brother .

Now I dont believe in violence but! if someone is aiming a gun at you will you shoot or be shot? If someone threatened your child do you kill them to save your child?. No one ever dies for their country they die for there goverment. Violence never solves anything imo its just causes more problems and grief, I dont see violence necassary if someone was going to bash me I wouldnt try to hurt them ... I can barely hit people idk why theres like a force stopping me. I would defend my self though but I will not throw a punch. Funny how I want to join military/police. I only get violent if some threaten/teases my family or gang bash someone or hit my friend... Then I go apeshit...



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27 May 2009, 10:37 am

I think it's about how the martial arts are practiced that determines whether or not it's violent... if it includes the whole ethic of avoiding unnecessary violence and honoring one's opponent, then I think it's actually anti-violence and more about skill and harmony... if it's practiced just to be the biggest, baddest, most dangerous jerk in the neighborhood, then I abhor it.

I've practiced aikido.



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27 May 2009, 4:51 pm

I'm really peace oriented.. I want everyone to get along and be happy. It even bothers me a lot when I see somebody looking down or not cheerful, so full out violence is hell for me. I had to grow up with plenty of stepfathers that treated my mother unkindly, with ages of yelling... so I really hate arguing or any such thing, no matter who the person is.


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27 May 2009, 7:09 pm

I love violent sports. I like to watch older war movies, "The Longest Day", "Tora! Tora! Tora!", etc. What I do not like is gratuitous violence directed at a person. I hate violent movies, unless the violence is outrageous (think "A Clockwork Orange" or "Diva"). I don't like blood and gore, even though in real life, I've become inured to them.



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27 May 2009, 7:16 pm

I can enjoy violence immensely if I think the event is humorous, which is usually the case. But I don't enjoy inflicting pain.



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27 May 2009, 9:23 pm

I like scary movies. I enjoyed The Strangers with Liv Tyler and Scott Speedman because of the mise en scene. Films with lots of suspense are the ones I like the most because they are easier to pay attention to. I get bored so easily during most movies. It has to have a lot of suspense or a mise en scene I find appealing or I tune it out.
I don't like wrestling, I think it's stupid and gross.
IRL I don't like violence and would prefer everyone to be calm like me. My ideal existence would be in a quaint village peopled with my clones. I think we would all get along wonderfully.



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28 May 2009, 8:45 am

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Hate, to me, implies a "violent" & irrational disliking for something. I try not to hate anything. :)


I hate a lot of things, hatred is my outer driving force, my fuel kind of. Without hatred I'm kind of slow minded and dim and my aspie traits become more evident. When I'm not hating I feel extremly spiritual and like I connect with the universe and what lies beyond, but hate fuels my sociopathic personality and is what determines how I interact with others. It sharpens my senses, makes me able to read and understand what many aspies can not. If I run out of hatred, I fear the light in my eyes will fade and my IQ will drop.


sounds "heavy", i can't fully understand, but if you can, lose the hate!!
you're clearly intelligent & while you can rationalise feeling hatred, it "destroys"
I'm "aggressive" in that i refuse to compromise on almost anything.. (kinda "super-stubborn")but i don't feel "hate" etc just a sense of determination (i think). of course you can feel whatever you want, it's none of my business, but i worry for you when you say you feel such hatred
peace :P



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28 May 2009, 8:54 am

DonkeyBuster wrote:
I think it's about how the martial arts are practiced that determines whether or not it's violent... if it includes the whole ethic of avoiding unnecessary violence and honoring one's opponent, then I think it's actually anti-violence and more about skill and harmony... if it's practiced just to be the biggest, baddest, most dangerous jerk in the neighborhood, then I abhor it.

I've practiced aikido.

it's like Mr Han compared to Bruce lee..(if you're familiar with the reference) "My style? call it the art of fighting without fighting"

unrelated but still on the topic of martial arts.. i spar'd (?)with an aikido practitioner once.. was very fluid & i "lost"lol..
it was an honour as they were 30years my senior & still happy to share knowledge.
i think all "true" martial arts are honourable in themselves, just a small few "use" them for their own ends.



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28 May 2009, 9:37 am

Im a pacifict. I hate violence :(



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28 May 2009, 9:53 am

"violence" is the state of being in violation of a rule or law.
nothing can violate a true law, because true laws are laws of physics.
to violate human fabricated laws which are merely "rules" that one is punished for not obeying, is to "violate" rules made by mortal and imperfect thinkers.

i know this is a topic is about physical aggression and abuse however.

i think that people who damage other lives are deserved of punishment.
i think that someone who is prone to "hurt" other people physically due to desire is deserved of removal from freedom to roam in the world.

i do not really care if young male people at the tavern are bashing each others skulls as i drive out of the carpark.

when i am gone, the situation no longer exists as far as i am concerned.

i do not feel violent ever except on few occasions.

sometimes it is necessary to fix a potential meltdown i will have for days if i do not retaliate to someone who makes me very angry.

the last time i was what i think is truly "violent" was was when i ordered a plate of battered deep fried barramundi (fish) and chips at the tavern. this was about 1 year ago. i also ordered lemon wedges because i do not like tar tare sauce.

when my number came up and i went to the counter to get my meal, a big man with a beard stepped in front of me and got my plate and took it with him.
i said "that's my plate mister" and he looked at me and he said "boo hoo hoo".

he felt so superior to me because he was solid and tough and bald and had a beard and mustache and tattoos and pretty girls in his company.
i thought he seemed like someone who had been in prison for many years at some stage past.

i went to him at his table and said to him he was mistaken about the plate of food and he grinned a criminal smile at me and said "awwww whatchya gunna do lil man".

i realized that he never ordered a meal and it was not confusion but theft and i became angry.

i could not challenge him honestly because he was so much more powerful physically than me.

i went and ordered another meal.
i got it and i ate it but i did not enjoy it because i was fixated on the criminal that stole my food.

i got angrier when i realized he treated me like he would treat some weakling in prison who has to submit to him.
i do not deserve to experience prison style behavior from him.

when i noticed him leave, i also was leaving and he had forgotten all about me.

when we were in the car park going to our cars, i found a beam of of wood.
i got in my car and started it (so i could easily get away), and then i got out with my plank of wood and followed him from behind and i said "nice meal?". he turned around and said "whaaaa?" and i said "well you will enjoy desert" and i hit him on the forehead as hard as i could with the wood and then i went to my car and drove off.

he was still conscious when i left and he obviously never reported it because they could have got my number plate (license tag?) and i was very worried for about 3 weeks after that. i thought the police would come to my place, but they never did.

that excursion into the experience of violence made me feel nauseously nervous for a long time after i hit him.

i realized what i did was likely to make me arrestable.

another part of me felt good after i hit him. i thought "this is the first time that that ruling prison ape ever got bounced by a simple ret*d from the outside".

maybe he respected me in a sick way after that event.

that was the last time i went there because i did not want to return into an environment of retribution.

violence is bad as an initial response to dissatisfaction, and not bad as a reaction to threats.



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28 May 2009, 12:12 pm

still.. methinks "hate" is a form of violence.. to hate violence, would that not mean you wish violence upon violent people?
don't hate!! !:( "Yoda" linked hate to fear etc remember? if not for me, do it for Yoda ;)



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28 May 2009, 1:18 pm

Fudo wrote:
still.. methinks "hate" is a form of violence.. to hate violence, would that not mean you wish violence upon violent people?
don't hate!! !:( "Yoda" linked hate to fear etc remember? if not for me, do it for Yoda ;)


LOL, I guess this means we really think alike! I wrote the same thing earlier in the thread too! Even about Yoda! Weird. :)


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28 May 2009, 1:27 pm

In reality, I don't like violence. But I do enjoy it to a degree, such as, in some comic books and on television(mostly cartoons). However, in the "real world" for me it's a hell lot different. I especially can't stand violent people. If or when I see one, I give a cold shoulder and walk away as quickly as I can.



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28 May 2009, 1:42 pm

Yeah, I don't like them either and when you are stuck living next door to some it's worse. They can be a tremendous source of anxiety. I cannot tell you how much better things are for me now because I am surrounded by peace loving people who aren't always fighting with each other, insulting each other, yelling, etc. That is the kind of thing that really drives me crazy for some reason. I don't know why that is, but it impacts me negatively and in a noticeable way.
Now that I have this inner peace I value it because I have experienced it as a near constant state for a few years now and I think I am a bit hypervigilant about it and worry that it will get jeopardized.
I dread when neighbors move for this very reason. I wonder who will move in and replace them? I think it scares me more than most people. When I am surrounded by calm, reasonable types I do much better psychologically and hope they will never move away.
I dream about moving to another part of the country but have problems adjusting whenever I move from here. I think what would be most beneficial for me is living in a fairly liberal location with calm peaceful people who aren't drama queens who try to live out their lives like they are scenes from soap operas.
I wish things didn't affect me like they do. I think I am more sensitive to my environment than most.



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28 May 2009, 1:50 pm

Sparx139 wrote:
I'm not a fan of violence. War is a result of the diplomats making grievous mistakes (or it should be anyway), and I can't even begin to understand the whole "let's go out on the school's football ground and beat each other to pulps" mentality.

Ironically, I play violent video games. :?

Also, when someone pushes my buttons to a certain point, when I get angry enough and stressed enough, I want to physically hurt the source of the anger. It's rather strange, as I'm a peaceful person.

Does anyone else have this paradox?


I do -- Politically, I'm a non-absolute pacifist. Yet, I play very violent computer games, particularly WW2 first person shooters. My older (AS) son is like that too -- he seems fascinated by pretend fighting, yet he is actually the most gentle person I know. In real life, he wouldn't hurt a fly.



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28 May 2009, 6:16 pm

I like movie special effects, explosions and lasers and crashes... but I don't even like movie violence to people or other living beings, let alone real violence and real harm.

I grew up in a violent family and I've worked as a veterinary technician and thank-you I've seen enough violence, harm and blood and guts to last a lifetime... several lifetimes, methinks. Ugh.