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20 Jun 2009, 3:52 am

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was difficult to answer. I've had 2 romantic relationships in my life, but the longest one lasted less than a year and a half. What counts as "long-term"?


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20 Jun 2009, 3:54 am

1.Part time job (paper route-age 12)
2.Learner's license (driving-age 16)
3.Bank Account-(opened it myself at the age of 17)
4.High school Diploma
5.Full time job (age 20)
6.Line of Credit (took out a loan to purchase my Ford Explorer-age 21)
7.Insurance (Required upon ownership and registration of vehicle-Age 21)
8.Driver's License (Age 22)
9.Credit Card (Capital one mastercard-Age 22)
10. (moved to Red Deer at age 22 in sept 2008) Renting a room in Red Deer and living independantly while attending college...parents live in Vegreville which is 3 hours away
11.After I finish college and get work in my trained field, I plan to buy a house and get a new vehicle..preferably a Jeep like this one.

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20 Jun 2009, 3:59 am

Who_Am_I,

I think two years is the start of "long-term".

I also add: ... was online; there's no way that one could start in person for me.



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20 Jun 2009, 8:36 am

Bank account (not opened in childhood) 18
Driver’s license: 16
Checkbook: 18
Credit card: 19
Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications): 16
Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications): 27
Insurance (any kind): 18
Able to live independently without basic support: 27
Marriage/long-term relationship: 30
Children: NEVER, Infertile
Own home: nope



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20 Jun 2009, 9:32 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
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Marriage/long-term relationship

was difficult to answer. I've had 2 romantic relationships in my life, but the longest one lasted less than a year and a half. What counts as "long-term"?


I'm not sure. Even some marriages last less than a year or two, and some enter them without having been in a long-term relationship with the other first. I'd say personal judgement is best when checking that item.



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20 Jun 2009, 10:37 am

1. Which items have you obtained, and at approximately what age did you obtain them?
Specify whether it is through choice if you don't have them, and add more items to the list if you think of anything.


*Bank account (not opened in childhood)
I still retain the bank account my father opened for me in childhood. No reason to change, it has been a good bank for me.

*Driver’s license
Age 17, no problems. I like to drive, and it was pretty simple for me to get my license.

*Checkbook
Age 18

*Credit card
Age 18. I've never really had problems with credit. Although I have managed to rack up hundreds of dollars of debt at times, I always manage to pay it off.

*Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)
Age 17. I've worked at several foodservice and retail businesses. I still do. These jobs have met certain of my abilities/sensory and cognitive limitations, yet they are far below my qualifications. I have a bachelor's degree and extensive training within my field.

*Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)
Age 25. I got a full-time teaching job, after I graduated from college with a degree in Education. This was to be the start of my career, but I completely screwed up, and was let go at the end of the year. I currently work two part-time jobs to make ends meet.

*Insurance (any kind)
Age 17. Car insurance, when I started driving. I let it lapse one time because I was broke and couldn't make the payment. My license was suspended and I had to pay even more to get it restored. No health insurance right now, due to no full-time job. Luckily, I don't get sick very often.

*Able to live independently without basic support
Age 23 when I sort of started to live independently. Currently, I am not really paying rent because of a complicated living situation. Other than that, I pay all my bills and take care of all my own responsibilities.

*Marriage/long-term relationship
No. All my relationships sputter out, because I don't know how to keep it together, and my expression of emotion is at best, a little odd. I seem to repulse people.

*Children
Age 23. I do have a son, because of my most recent relationship. Although that relationship is over, we still live together out of financial and practical necessity. We are looking to quickly change this.

*Own home
No. Probably won't own a home for some time yet.

2. If applicable, what sort of support or accommodations would you require in order to obtain the items you want?

I need to get out and live by myself for awhile, and get that full-time job that will provide the means to do so. I believe eventually I'll get it together and be able to have a happier and more productive life.


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20 Jun 2009, 11:29 am

1.Bank Account: 13 savings;18 checking, when i got my first job to pay my parents rent
2.Driver's License: do not have one, but attempted at 17, but have sensory issues that prevent
that.
3.Checkbook: 18 when i opened my checking account
4.Credit Card:26, when my basic checking account had added a credit card to the account benefits
5.Part Time Job: 16 as a bagger, not good with Asperger's when I can not deal with people
6.Full Time Job: at 18 at Wal-Mart as a Cashier/floater, again not a good job for my Asperger's
and I had to leave and went to school and then disability.
7.Insurance: health insurance at 20(medicaid)
8.Able to live independently:Hopefully soon, as I applied for my own independent apartment
Living in a group home, though i have my own side without roommates, though it is a
duplex, with 2 mean housemates that live on the other sides, we share a basement and
had to be forced contact with each other, but not any more.
9.Long Term Relationship/Marriage:Never in one and I am not going to be in one soon
10.Children: none, but would want to be a single mom as soon as I get my life straightened out.
11.Own Home: No, but working on it. Hopefully when I get a full time Job after I graduate.



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20 Jun 2009, 5:21 pm

Bank account (not opened in childhood) --18
Driver’s license--19
Checkbook--18
Credit card--18
Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications) 18--right after high school working for the government @ city hall
Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)--21
Insurance (any kind)--car insurance @ 24. No health insurance or life insurance though.
Able to live independently without basic support --24
Marriage/long-term relationship--married @ 26 to a wonderful man after 2 failed long term relationships
Children--none, we don't want any
Own home--can't quite afford this one yet.



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20 Jun 2009, 5:58 pm

Very interesting and varied responses so far!

1. Which items have you obtained, and at approximately what age did you obtain them?

Am in my early thirties

Bank account (not opened in childhood) - Age 23
Driver’s license - Never
Checkbook - Never
Credit card - Never
Part-time job - First at age 24 (large qualification discrepancy)
Full-time job - Briefly at age 26 (large qualification discrepancy)
Insurance (any kind) - Never
Able to live independently without basic support - Never
long-term relationship - First one around mid-twenties
Children - Never (through choice)
Own home - Never


2. If applicable, what sort of support or accommodations would you require in order to obtain the items you want?

I'd first like to obtain a thorough autism needs assessment (am in the midst of a long complaints procedure to obtain it.) There is a huge discrepancy between my cognitive and daily living skills--for example, I'm a qualified scientist--for which I want official acknowledgement. Then I'd like access to autism-specific job support services, social care, social groups, and counselling, when they come into existence in my region.



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20 Jun 2009, 8:06 pm

outlier wrote:
The following is a list of items I've observed most adults to eventually obtain (although they may be lacking a couple of them).


1. Which items have you obtained, and at approximately what age did you obtain them?
Specify whether it is through choice if you don't have them, and add more items to the list if you think of anything.


Bank account (not opened in childhood)
Driver’s license
Checkbook
Credit card
Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)
Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)
Insurance (any kind)
Able to live independently without basic support
Marriage/long-term relationship
Children
Own home


2. If applicable, what sort of support or accommodations would you require in order to obtain the items you want?


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20 Jun 2009, 8:24 pm

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Bank account (not opened in childhood)--My mom helped me open one at 17. I opened my own at 23.
Driver’s license--Yes, finally (at 25)
Checkbook--Yes (came with the bank account)
Credit card--No
Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)--Yes, repeatedly, and failed at it, starting at 16
Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)--Yes, repeatedly, and failed at it, starting at 17
Insurance (any kind)--Medicaid; does that count? Started at 24
Able to live independently without basic support--No, but I can live independently on SSI with a couple of case workers to handle the logistics. Age 23, first time living in my own apartment.
Marriage/long-term relationship--no, but I don't want one
Children--See above
Own home --No.


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20 Jun 2009, 8:29 pm

Bank account Opened around 18 I guess

Driver’s license around 20

Checkbook Around 18 I guess

Credit card Around I guess this must have been after 21, but before 24

Part-time job About 18

Full-time job About 20

Insurance (any kind) Renters was about 20 Car was about 20. Homeowners was about 38

Able to live independently without basic support About 20. Before that, I had financial limitations.

Marriage/long-term relationship NONE!

Children NONE!

Own home about 38.



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20 Jun 2009, 10:07 pm

Bank account (not opened in childhood) Age 18

Driver’s license
Age 20. I tried to learn to drive in my hometown, but it was just too scary. At age 20, I was in the military and stationed in the middle of nowhere, so there was pretty much no traffic at all. Even so, I had a lot of anxiety around learning to drive. Now, I am back in the SF Bay Area, and can hardly drive anywhere at all, because there is too much visual clutter, traffic, and too much to keep track of.

Checkbook 18
Credit card 18 Unfortunately, I didn't understand how stupid it is to buy more that you can afford to pay off each month, and ended up in debt. Not nearly as bad as a lot of people, though.

Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications) I think I was 16. It was working behind a counter at a little five and dime store. I was so nervous around customers, and especially my boss, who was horrible, that I felt sick to my stomach all the time. I wasn't allowed to move away from the cash register, but had to look busy all the time, so I had to spend all my time pretending to wipe the counter over and over while the boss looked down from his office window and glared at me. I quit after three weeks when he yelled at me for not cleaning a toilet that I didn't even know existed.


Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications) This was the Air Force. You may think that a person on the spectrum can't get into the AF, but there were a couple of people (one in particular) who was the ultimate HFA guy. I did fantastic in tech school, but once I got to my permanent duty station, I never quite "got it". I felt confused all the time about what I was meant to be doing and how I was supposed to act. In basic training, they teach you all about military customs, and how you are supposed to act, but then you get to your duty station and find out it all that stuff only half-applies. AND you have to live in the dorms and get along with roommates. I had no clue about AS or really any understanding that the problem was ME. I was constantly told to get with the program, shape up my attitude, take the initiative, and all that stuff, but had no clue HOW. It seemed like other people just did stuff, and everything went smoothly. I didn't know what to do, so I spend most of my time lampooning my superiors behind their backs, which a lot of other people seemed to find amusing, but I still was miserable.


Insurance (any kind) Age 20. Can't drive a car without insurance. It wasn't hard, because I lived in a town with two little car insurance offices. It sucked up most of my paycheck, though.

Able to live independently without basic support Never. I'm almost 42, and I've never been on my own. I don't think I could manage it, and I also think I would be afraid sometimes. I get scared when my major appliances make funny noises, and things like that. There are often things that happen that I don't know what to do about, and I feel like a kid.

Marriage/long-term relationship Age 28 to present. I had had what I thought were relationships, but apparently if you just slept with the person a few times and didn't actually care about them, then it's not a relationship. Ha ha. Who knew? I've never experience a "break up".

Children Yep. Somehow I managed to do this twice. There are a lot of typical "mom" things that I don't do, though. I don't drive my kids anywhere, which is just as well, because they prefer to be at home. I do have to get it together enough to help my AS son get the help and services he needs, and for a while, that became one of my "special interests." Now it's harder, because at some point that stopped being a "special interest." I still care, of course, but it's no longer easy to read about Special Education Law for hours at a time and stay focused.


Own home Age 33. Of course, my husband is the one that earns all the money, and it's a very small home. Also, because of the type of home, we are not responsible for maintenence on the exterior.





2. If applicable, what sort of support or accommodations would you require in order to obtain the items you want?

Well, I'm not sure what you mean here, but ideally I would have someone to drive me around. My fear of driving has gotten worse. As I am driving, I get a feeling like I am forgetting how to operate the vehicle, and I'm not really connected to it. The scenery and other traffic go by too fast, and I feel like my reflexes aren't quick enough to deal with things as they come. My husband has to take time off work (and he gets paid pretty good money, but by the hour, so he loses a lot) to take us to appointments and things. I also have no spoken to my only girl friend for almost a year, because I'm afraid she'll want to meet someplace that I can't drive to anymore.

If I didn't have my husband, I don't know what I'd do. I've never had a job that paid enough to actually live on, and I know from experience that I don't have what it takes to keep one. I have zero references, and am not able to say all the bold faced lies that you are supposed to say at interviews, like, "I like a challenge", "I'm a people person", and "I'm a self-starter." Nothing is further from the truth. AND, I have kids, so if I didn't have a husband, I'd still need to support them. Childcare costs WAY more than anything I've ever made, and that's just crappy childcare, certainly not something appropriate for my AS son. Honestly, if I had had any clue that my problems with life and jobs were because of something in ME (AS), and not that I've been around a-holes all my life, then I wouldn't have had kids. I mean, I adore them, and they are really neat people, so I don't regret having them, but I wish I could be a more competent mother for them, and have less worries. I have ZERO social network to give them. Nothing at all.



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20 Jun 2009, 10:52 pm

Bank account (not opened in childhood) - 15 yrs old, when I first started on centrelink payments
Driver’s license - Got my learners for the first time at 16, let them expire and got it again at 22 and progressed to my provisional licence which I'm on today.
Checkbook - Never needed one. I mostly bank online and use ATM's
Credit card - None, a visa debit card doesn't count either (which I got when I was 24)
Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications) - None
Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications) - 20 yrs old. It was a two week temp job obtained through my father. It involved folding mail and entering stuff on spreadsheets. I was qualified as a book-keeper at the time.
Insurance (any kind) - On my car; just got the policy in my name this past week at 25 yrs old (it was in my dad's name before then)
Able to live independently without basic support - Nope, though I suppose I could survive if I was living on my own, but my style of living would be rather 'disordered'.
Marriage/long-term relationship - 19 yrs old, lasted 2 1/2 years
Children - None
Own home - I wish



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21 Jun 2009, 6:05 pm

1. Which items have you obtained, and at approximately what age did you obtain them?
Specify whether it is through choice if you don't have them, and add more items to the list if you think of anything.

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Bank account (not opened in childhood)
17

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Driver’s license
19 - By choice. It could have been earlier but I was not excited about driving :lol: And still arent :lol:

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Checkbook
Not yet. By choice/Not interested

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Credit card
31 - by own decision. Didn't want to mess with it, but now I think it's useful, if used carefully.

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Part-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)
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Full-time job (specify if large discrepancy between ability level/qualifications)
21, before graduating (:
Which BTW didn't last long :lol: . After that I was offered jobs at some prestigious places 8O , which required some kid of "whiz kid" analyst 8O , but the places where some beer and tobbaco places :? .
I turned down a good one with a prestigious person (he offered it to me, directly 8O ), which now I think was a good decision.
BTW I'm way way happier now in my new career.

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Insurance (any kind)
21, came with the job.

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Able to live independently without basic support
17?!
I lived out of town, studied in another state.
It definitely wasn't easy BTW.

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Marriage/long-term relationship

Long-term relationship: Longest one has lasted about 3 years
Marriage: Not yet, but I hope to find the right girl, a cute one :lol:
... Well, someday, there's still hope (:

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Children
Not yet. Some friends say that I'll have THREE little girls :lol: 8O

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Own home
Not yet/But interested in getting one


2. If applicable, what sort of support or accommodations would you require in order to obtain the items you want?
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Well, mainly it would be a combination of two things; me getting older and smarter and learning more stuff, and also help with basic organization and accounting and that sort of thing.

what Snshower said.


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22 Jun 2009, 2:13 am

outlier wrote:
Bank account (not opened in childhood) - 29
Driver’s license - 17
Checkbook - 29
Credit card - 29
Part-time job - 17
Full-time job - 29 (never had a "real" FT job w/ benefits prior)
Insurance (any kind) - 29 (auto)
Able to live independently without basic support - still waiting on this...
Marriage/long-term relationship - 27 (1st LTR)
Children - none
Own home - not likely