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05 Oct 2009, 5:07 am

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05 Oct 2009, 5:21 am

Celebrity gossip magazines. I can't understand why people are genuinely interested in what dress random actress wore to a movie premier, or what pointless reality TV star A really thinks of pointless reality TV star B.

Is there really nothing more worthwhile to read about?



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05 Oct 2009, 5:58 am

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05 Oct 2009, 6:32 am

Yeh, I don't get why NTs don't just say what they mean and mean what they say. Confuses the hell out of me, and they wonder why I get so upset when I ask for clarification and they don't give it or just keep repeating themselves like I wasn't listening the first time.

The other thing I don't get is how people can have more than one friend at any one time. I mean, how can you even have a conversation with more than one person at once?



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05 Oct 2009, 7:07 am

elderwanda wrote:
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High fives. NOT a fan. Often NT friends will have their hands out, and I will have no idea why. And then when I finally realize, I will wonder "and what was that for?".



Apparently there are different types of high fives, too. Someone was introduced to my AS son a few weeks ago, and they stuck their hand out in a way that didn't look quite right for a handshake, but it wasn't up high like for a high-five, either. My son just stood, there, not knowing what to do. I couldn't help him, because I didn't know either. Finally the person said, "Don't I get a high-five?" My son just looked at him, as if to say, "I don't even know you, and you're holding your hand in a weird way, so I don't understand what to do." Eventually the person gave up.

I've had people do that to me, and you never know what they want. Do they want you to slap their hand, or to grab it. Whatever I do, they respond with a nervous laugh, as if they are embarrassed by whatever I did, so now I just ignore the hand. Now that I'm in my 40's I don't run into to many people who feel the need to do that with me, but once in a while I do.


Just so you know, that was a low-five. It's the less frequently used partner of a high-five. If people are only going to use one, they usually go with a high-five but some people just go with a low-five (the person in your anecdote). More common is for the low-five to come right after the high-five.



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05 Oct 2009, 8:23 am

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Why NTs think about unsolvable problem?
For me problem (not mathematical or the like) are:
a) solvable -> so solve it.
b) unsolvable -> so it's not a problem.




So, my fiancee calls me into the room this morning. She says, "I just remembered that my half-brother died of colon cancer". I said, "OK...".

So later, on the phone, I ask her, "Why did you call me in to tell me about your half-brother's colon cancer?". She says, "I don't know".

She has been having bowel problems and is a breast cancer survivor, but she told me about a family history of colon cancer for reasons unknown?

Sounds dishonest to me. So I ask, "Should I be concerned about this?". She gets frustrated.

I explain that I need to know why she told me. If she meant for me to be concerned and I brushed off her statement as not important, she would call be a cold heartless bastard.

I am getting tired of this. I think I would rather go back to not caring.

I don't have AS, I am a bastard. FTW!



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05 Oct 2009, 8:55 am

IMO many of the seemingly pointless NT behaviors described here are simply the small bits of talk and action that give us our humanity, personality and our character. These are the things that make us human. Remove them and you've got a world full of "Spocks". Logical & functional, true. But as cold, bland and boring as a beach full of penguines.

Embrace our differences! They make the world interesting! : )



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05 Oct 2009, 9:03 am

granatelli wrote:
Embrace our differences! They make the world interesting! : )


I agree. In Italy we say "Il mondo è bello perché è vario". In english it sounds like "The world is cool because it has variations". The main problem is that many NT behave like "sheeps", I say many because I have many (well not many) interesting NT friends, but many people simply "behave in the same way", call it "omologation".

Also what make us "human" is.. well we are human. Does an alien be less "human" than us? When we (as human) sent a message into the space we sent a message with our DNA, knowledge, math, science. It has nothing to do with society. Are Papua New Guinea people less human than us? Culture may change, fashion, religion, change. They don't make us human, they make us Christians, Buddhist, liberal, hippy, nerds, etc..


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05 Oct 2009, 9:37 am

i can not understand why people in shops are so silly and do not notice that they are in my way.
they always stand in front of shelves where i am aimed, and they inspect all the items in the shelf where i want to pick a product i want from, so i have to wait for them to finish browsing all the products in the immediate vicinity. i tap my foot loudly and they do not notice, and after a few minutes i may sigh "oh christ!! !" in a way that i want them to hear..
they remain obstinately unmovable from their inspection of the products and their search for "bargains".

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i do not know why cooks in hamburger takeaway shops are so easily agitated.
when i ordered a hamburger this afternoon at a takeaway shop, the man sho was behind the counter said "yeah what can i get ya".
i was taken aback a bit and i said without looking at him " yes a hamburger with egg and cheese and extra onions. i want the onions to be well cooked and i like the egg to be runny. i do not want....."
he interrupted me and said in a hostile way "yeah mate...i know how to cook a bloody hamburger huh?"
i said that i did not care about his default hamburger cooking style, but i wanted him to cook a tailor made burger to my taste for which i would pay whatever he calculated it to be worth (within the boundaries of reason however)..
he became confrontational and i did not secure a burger from that shop.

i can not see why it is offensive for me to ask for a special way for my burger to be prepared. i also did not want tomato, and the cheese should be mild processed cheddar.
i never even got to give him the entire description of my order before he said "nah mate....clear off!!"

indeed ! !!.

i very often encounter this type of scenario



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05 Oct 2009, 10:04 am

As you can tell by my screen name I have a huge problem with people not saying what they mean. I think I get by OK most of the time but this is one thing that brings me undone. I think I am a fairly/very confident person and have achieved alot more than many NT's I know but I lack confidence in my ability to understand this type of stuff. When someone I don't know all that well says I should visit,write,phone,email,drop in, do coffee, lunch, dinner what ever........ I always say NO because I have to assume that they don't actually mean it, and just incase they are actually waiting for me to do any one of those things they will know my intentions. I find most of those things night marish anyway but sometimes you might want to do it for anothers benefit.

Another thing I hate is cliques. Even in school I could not stand them. I would do my best to shpw people how stupid they were for doing the whole gammet of clique behaviours. I have often been in a clique or group but was always the first person to talk to and welcome any outsiders in. Not if they where doing OK getting themsleves in but if I could see that no one else was going to be freindly then I would do it. Funny thing was alot of the people you were kind to ended up being the next one to be unfriendly to the next newcomer. Why are people who are secure in their place in a group big enough to welcome another in. If they feel insecure about their place in the group themselves (which I have observed alot do) why don't they break away from it. Why does anyone want to be in a situation they feel uncomfortable in.

Small talk drives me nuts. If you have nothing to say don't

People that shop for compliments and reassurance constantly.

People that cannot do anythng on their own.

People that claim to know what ASD is but still think you would benefit from having contact with alot of other strangers. They refuse to acknoledge that some people don't need nearly as much human contact as others. Surely it is not that hard to comprehend.

People that think they have status because they are "FRIENDS" with alot of people. How much of a friend could you be if you had 100 friends all wanting to interact at once. Why do the whole facebook or myspace thing. I don't even go on those sites they make me physically ill. Even more "FRIENDS" with even less meaning. People that I already know have suggested I "meet" them on such sites but I don't even want to put enough information on there to register, with people that in all reality could be anyone(other than who they say they are)

There are more plenty more but I have had my winge so I will gve someone else a go now.

cheers



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05 Oct 2009, 10:05 am

I agree that many people, NT's included, act like sheep. I have always tried to fight the good fight to remain an individual among the crowds. A writer once said, "Whatever the masses do, do the opposite, because they are almost always wrong" rings true in most cases.

When they sent the spaceship up w/the DNA & other bits of humanity they also included parts of our pop culture, it was not all just dry science. All those little bits, rock and roll, fashion, Native American wall paintings, Romanian folk dancing and bad movies all make up parts of what it is to be human.



Nightsun wrote:
granatelli wrote:
Embrace our differences! They make the world interesting! : )


I agree. In Italy we say "Il mondo è bello perché è vario". In english it sounds like "The world is cool because it has variations". The main problem is that many NT behave like "sheeps", I say many because I have many (well not many) interesting NT friends, but many people simply "behave in the same way", call it "omologation".

Also what make us "human" is.. well we are human. Does an alien be less "human" than us? When we (as human) sent a message into the space we sent a message with our DNA, knowledge, math, science. It has nothing to do with society. Are Papua New Guinea people less human than us? Culture may change, fashion, religion, change. They don't make us human, they make us Christians, Buddhist, liberal, hippy, nerds, etc..



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05 Oct 2009, 10:52 am

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ouch. man, i am SO glad i live in the modern era!


Oh well. Readhair, Aspie, use left and right (was left-handed) and born by holy-friday. I had people saying that I am the Antichrist... (not joking... :roll: )


cool! i wish i had red hair. it's so pretty. apparently lefties are primarily right-brained. but i dont know if that's too accurate, i'm a righty and right brained. :P



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05 Oct 2009, 10:54 am

Following the latest fashion craze just don't understand at all.



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05 Oct 2009, 10:55 am

Nightsun wrote:
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ouch. man, i am SO glad i live in the modern era!


Oh well. Readhair, Aspie, use left and right (was left-handed) and born by holy-friday. I had people saying that I am the Antichrist... (not joking... :roll: )


cool! i wish i had red hair. it's so pretty. apparently lefties are primarily right-brained. but i dont know if that's too accurate, i'm a righty and right brained. :P



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05 Oct 2009, 12:47 pm

Murasame wrote:
Celebrity gossip magazines. I can't understand why people are genuinely interested in what dress random actress wore to a movie premier, or what pointless reality TV star A really thinks of pointless reality TV star B.

Is there really nothing more worthwhile to read about?


Inquiring minds want to know. If a 30-year-old celebrity has a baby, and a week later she doesn't look skinny and airbrushed anymore, I want to know. And if various Jennifers and Jessicas are fighting with each other over who has the best plastic surgeon, I want to know. It's all very fascinating.

Also, if I want to know what one celebrity thinks of another, then I know I can trust those magazines to tell the absolute truth. That makes me feel like I'm right there in the celebrities' lives, experiencing the glamor and liposuction myself.

[You can tell I'm being very sarcastic, right?]



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05 Oct 2009, 12:54 pm

Being polite is standing up when you're at the table and someone comes in. I have been taught to say 'good morning' when I get up and see someone, but I really hate this.


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