TheMidnightJudge wrote:
He just gave universal freedom to marry as an example of something that "liberty and justice for all" entails. He didn't say that the phrase meant marriage freedom.
I would have to go listen to the tape again to know what was actually said, but refusing to stand and/or to say "The Pledge" because some state does not want to recognize non-heterosexual marriage is silly ... and the media will play on that silliness to help keep people confused.
TheMidnightJudge wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
Nope. At the end of that tape, he said "liberty and justice for all" means "Everyone should be able to marry."
Those two thoughts are not related.
The two thoughts are related
The freedom to marry falls under liberty. And since it's just that all people should be able to marry, you might argue it also falls under justice.
In context, that mentioned "liberty" contrasts with governmental "slavery", not with the state refusing to enter into a citizen-solicited civil contract. But, please know I am far from being any kind of lawyer. I am simply trying to help people see we human beings *preceded* the state and can do precisely as we please as long as we do not deprive any other human being of "life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness (ownership of property)" via things like murder, confinement or theft.
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