Do you wish everyone in the world had AS?

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Do you wish everyone had AS?
Yes 36%  36%  [ 19 ]
No 57%  57%  [ 30 ]
I don't know 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
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14 Dec 2009, 8:30 pm

I don't think so. Others I know with similar traits do things that make me cringe and with them the communication is prone to glitches from both directions. Things like being science minded and responsible with money don't necessarily require AS. As for the girlfriend issue, I don't gather from what I've seen here that there's anything specific or special that NTs can't also do, if they wanted to. My work group probably would not be able to succeed at interfacing with others without the help of some important NTs, who might not have the focus to see some of the things I can see before anyone else sees them. I really think it takes both kinds.


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14 Dec 2009, 8:34 pm

I'm gonna say no offhand only because its much easier to have a conversation with an outgoing NT person than with an aspie, in my experience they know how to keep things rolling.

However, maybe I wish everyone had it for a day, or a week, or a month or something so they could relate. Or if everyone went in and out of phases of being aspie and NT, that might be cool.



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14 Dec 2009, 10:08 pm

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Well I am sure not like that so I know not all aspies are. I do my job and I know my work would be more important than my obsessions and interests and they are at home waiting for me, same as when I am expecting people coming in and needing me. Yeah I'm guilty not talking to people but if they talk to me, I speak.
I think there be more public transportation and who cares what people wear. I wear whatever I want and if I could, I'd be wearing my Halloween costumes out in public when it isn't even Halloween. I'd be wearing my pajamas out in public too. I have on pajama day when I was in school.

And people would be asking "What time is it?"

Oh yeah I have gone to aspie groups here and they do speak to each other having regular conversations and this one woman there said "Hey we aren't supposed to be having a normal conversation" and I thought that was funny. She was joking of course. I am one of the people there who doesn't speak unless I am spoken too but some others just talk during the breaks.


LOL, I know. I was just presenting a humorous bad-but-not-worst case scenario from the perspective of an NT. Or what I think an NT would notice. Of course everyone is different. Why you gotta be so seriousssss? :cry: I bet that living with you is like taking a double dose of Prozac every day. :D

Ok, in all seriousness, where are these groups? If you know of any groups in the western states, please tell me about them. Maybe we can meet in person someday.



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14 Dec 2009, 10:21 pm

I wish everyone liked baseball. I hate hearing the same crap about it being "boring".



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14 Dec 2009, 11:08 pm

In my case, it wouldn't matter. It's not the person's neurology, but more like my inability to live up to their standards or understand them well that causes me problems. Either way, both neurologies are just as confusing and misunderstandings would abound and I would still rather do my own thing than do what they want me to, and it's hard for me to respond certain ways at certain times for certain reasons, which causes a lot of conflicts. I am very much my own person.



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15 Dec 2009, 12:34 am

How about 50 person AS 50 percent Non-AS...That way its even and there is a balance as opposed to now where AS is the minority, therefore, unable to defend themselves against NeuroNazi Bullying (I use NeuroNazi to define bullies since putting NTs in same pool as bullies would be unfair to the NTs out there who are not bullies)


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15 Dec 2009, 1:20 am

raisedbyignorance wrote:
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Yes, everyone would understand me a lot better, there'd be no problems socialising, technology would progress faster, the world would be more logical, and I might actually be able to find a girlfriend :P

I also think that if everyone is focused on one thing, and everyone has AS, we'll have loads of people focused on their own thing and those things would be done very well :)


To be understood would be the best thing about having everyone have AS.

Though my concern is...what if everyone with AS is already having trouble understanding OTHER PEOPLE with AS? I'm more forgiving towards other AS people out of compassion but that does not mean I ever understand them anymore than they would understand me. Logically I think this would worsen the problem of communication and understanding between us and might increase antagonism, social isolation and the like. Most of us might never communicate properly and I think that could have negative effects on society if EVERYONE were like this. Plus the whole obsessions thing.

I know people say that it would be a better world if everyone in the world were smart. Honestly, I dunno what is wrong with having a mix of dumb and naive people. Sometimes I envy them depending on the situation and sometimes I even feel bad that they get so much sh*t for not knowing as much as the next man. I think having different various degrees of intelligence and viewpoints (no matter how bad they may sound) is what makes this world a more warm and lively place. To have everyone be a supergeek would make this world quite cold in my mind.



Some aspies point of views are so out there they are hard to understand. I don't know if it's my own AS or them. Maybe it's them because some of their POV are so weird. I mean I have met normal people who also couldn't understand someone's point of view. My dad calls them stupid. My mom says they're strange and she just shrugs it off.


No all aspies are geeks. I'm sure not.



15 Dec 2009, 1:31 am

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"I don't smoke". That's funny. It was simply a saying, such as "He's got a chip on his shoulder". It does not mean I really think you smoke pot, OK?

The stupid : ) are simply a sideways smiley face. It's a way of saying, "I'm just joking here & I don't mean to get anybody mad".

I know all aspies are different. That was my point. That's why the world would be incredibly hard and stressful if everyone was an aspie. Each aspie has a different issue that bothers them and may lead to a meltdown. As you pointed out, everyone is different. The things that may cause a meltdown for you may not for someone else. And visa versa.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not looking to cause a stink. But seriously, my honest opinion is that the world would be a real mess if everyone was an aspie. JMHO.

Cheers.



Idioms are still my weak spot. I don't even understand "chip on he shoulder." Lot of times I let little words slide or little phrases even though I don't know what the person meant by them.

Somtimes I understand sayings without an explination because it's just obvious what it means just by how it was used. Lot of times I just ask "What do you mean?" Sometimes an idiom happens to be used at the right time like you did with "Are you smoking?" so I took it literal.



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15 Dec 2009, 1:50 am

Interesting topic. Some people think that people are becoming more Aspie like now that technology is becoming so wide spread and so important to our daily lives. The reasoning is that people are dealing with computers more and people less. People now use ATM's instead of tellers, and self check out is more common at the grocery store. Communicating via texting and email is more Aspie friendly than interacting in person or even the phone. Instead of making small talk when waiting in line, people are interacting with their smartphones or ipods.


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15 Dec 2009, 1:56 am

ssenkrad wrote:
Spokane_Girl wrote:
Well I am sure not like that so I know not all aspies are. I do my job and I know my work would be more important than my obsessions and interests and they are at home waiting for me, same as when I am expecting people coming in and needing me. Yeah I'm guilty not talking to people but if they talk to me, I speak.
I think there be more public transportation and who cares what people wear. I wear whatever I want and if I could, I'd be wearing my Halloween costumes out in public when it isn't even Halloween. I'd be wearing my pajamas out in public too. I have on pajama day when I was in school.

And people would be asking "What time is it?"

Oh yeah I have gone to aspie groups here and they do speak to each other having regular conversations and this one woman there said "Hey we aren't supposed to be having a normal conversation" and I thought that was funny. She was joking of course. I am one of the people there who doesn't speak unless I am spoken too but some others just talk during the breaks.


LOL, I know. I was just presenting a humorous bad-but-not-worst case scenario from the perspective of an NT. Or what I think an NT would notice. Of course everyone is different. Why you gotta be so seriousssss? :cry: I bet that living with you is like taking a double dose of Prozac every day. :D

Ok, in all seriousness, where are these groups? If you know of any groups in the western states, please tell me about them. Maybe we can meet in person someday.



I live in Portland, you nearby? That's where these groups are.

I found the groups online by doing a search and meetup.org has a list of groups. Do a search on autism there putting in your zip code and one might pop up.

It's where we go and we talk and we each do turn taking. One of the groups does show and tell and the other group, the group leader is picky so he wants newbies to call him first before attending their first group and you have to wear name tags and have to put down your real name and phone number. The other group does name tags and we have them in front of us but at the other one, we have to put them on our shirts. I don't mind. I find it helpful in fact because remembering names can be difficult. Plus one of the rooms is dark and they provide ear plugs and cards with the words "joke" on them. We hold it up if we are joking. Both groups have stim toys and we are allowed to step out of the room anytime and allowed to leave anytime.



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15 Dec 2009, 2:22 am

Hmm anything can be taken differently in the past that will never be and the future we've had



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15 Dec 2009, 2:48 am

raisedbyignorance wrote:
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Yes, everyone would understand me a lot better, there'd be no problems socialising, technology would progress faster, the world would be more logical, and I might actually be able to find a girlfriend :P

I also think that if everyone is focused on one thing, and everyone has AS, we'll have loads of people focused on their own thing and those things would be done very well :)


To be understood would be the best thing about having everyone have AS.

Though my concern is...what if everyone with AS is already having trouble understanding OTHER PEOPLE with AS? I'm more forgiving towards other AS people out of compassion but that does not mean I ever understand them anymore than they would understand me. Logically I think this would worsen the problem of communication and understanding between us and might increase antagonism, social isolation and the like. Most of us might never communicate properly and I think that could have negative effects on society if EVERYONE were like this. Plus the whole obsessions thing.

I know people say that it would be a better world if everyone in the world were smart. Honestly, I dunno what is wrong with having a mix of dumb and naive people. Sometimes I envy them depending on the situation and sometimes I even feel bad that they get so much sh*t for not knowing as much as the next man. I think having different various degrees of intelligence and viewpoints (no matter how bad they may sound) is what makes this world a more warm and lively place. To have everyone be a supergeek would make this world quite cold in my mind.


Since we're all so different, we probably wouldn't be able to understand everyone, but there would sure be a lot more understanding. In my experience at least, I can understand and socialise with aspies a lot better, and it makes sense when you think about, for example if you don't look at a NT while you talk they'll get annoyed, whereas other aspies would understand the problems and be totally fine.



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15 Dec 2009, 4:39 am

raisedbyignorance wrote:
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Yes, everyone would understand me a lot better, there'd be no problems socialising, technology would progress faster, the world would be more logical, and I might actually be able to find a girlfriend :P

I also think that if everyone is focused on one thing, and everyone has AS, we'll have loads of people focused on their own thing and those things would be done very well :)


To be understood would be the best thing about having everyone have AS.

Though my concern is...what if everyone with AS is already having trouble understanding OTHER PEOPLE with AS? I'm more forgiving towards other AS people out of compassion but that does not mean I ever understand them anymore than they would understand me. Logically I think this would worsen the problem of communication and understanding between us and might increase antagonism, social isolation and the like. Most of us might never communicate properly and I think that could have negative effects on society if EVERYONE were like this. Plus the whole obsessions thing.

I know people say that it would be a better world if everyone in the world were smart. Honestly, I dunno what is wrong with having a mix of dumb and naive people. Sometimes I envy them depending on the situation and sometimes I even feel bad that they get so much sh*t for not knowing as much as the next man. I think having different various degrees of intelligence and viewpoints (no matter how bad they may sound) is what makes this world a more warm and lively place. To have everyone be a supergeek would make this world quite cold in my mind.


Yes. In a lot of ways it's nice. Laborous people are often good at practical, mundane tasks despite being stupid. In one way I wish they didn't have voting rights, but then they would naturally get neglected by society. Test that determines whether or not a person is "smart" enough to vote would be discriminating. Knowledge tests might've been useful... But what knowledge should be included. We're all just products of our mind viruses anyways. Maybe we should have to write a minimum two-page report about our reason for electing a certain party/candidate..? That's the only reasonable solution that wouldn't stigmatize people.

But the matter of fact is that there are too many aspects of society that people don't have enough knowledge about to make a reasonable decision regarding. We require the extremes or a preconcieved idea to make a decision. This has led to marijuana being illegal and alcohol legal for example. Alcohol is very harmful to both individuals and society as a whole. Marijuana is harmful to abusive personalities only and its beneficial qualities are completely ignored because of our ignorant decision making.

No, I don't want the entire world's population to have autism. But I do often wish the intelligent people were the ones to take care of complicated matters such as politics.



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15 Dec 2009, 7:37 am

Sorry. The deaf people got their wish first. Now at least nobody will waste precious time listening to or creating music anymore. And as long as you carry a laptop or pad and pen with you at all times, or learn sign language, there will be no more miscommunication. Utopia!



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15 Dec 2009, 8:18 am

No. If the entire world had AS, there would essentially be half of the world's population picking up the slack for the remaining half who are too absorbed in a non-functional interest (like watching tv, or playing video games) to be productive.

It's the same reason for why an AS colony would be a horrible idea. Even moreso horrible if only people with "on the record" AS dx's could participate. It would be more like 15% carrying the other 85%.



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16 Dec 2009, 3:26 am

No, because I wouldn't be as unique and original as I am.


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