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elderwanda
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29 Dec 2009, 5:43 pm

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thanks, horse- im female!!- but yes, totally want to get married and have babies.
no problem with the thought of being with the same person for ever.

im 36- soon wont have any choice about not having children. ;-(

i miss most just lying in someone's arms on a sunday afternoon, doing the crossword, eating croissants, watching a film. thoughts like that make me sad- is that lonliness? i want freinds and a family- just not able to.

i want to live in a nature reserve- that sounds excellent.


Haha for some reason I assumed you were the guy in your avatar picture. I don't see any reason why you couldn't get married. Have you ever looked into NLP? Its interesting stuff there are lots of tricks which can be used to anchor different emotional states and change your model of the world. You can most likely use some of the techniques to override lots of the problems you have with interacting with people. Especially if its being used in conjunction with hypnosis.


Just thought I'd mention, the guy in misslottie's avatar picture is Lucius Malfoy (played by Jason Isaacs) of the Harry Potter movies. What a great character!



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29 Dec 2009, 5:44 pm

I don't really get lonely, but occasionally I think of something I'd like to know someone's opinion on. Not loneliness really, just a need for someone to occasionally communicate with.



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29 Dec 2009, 6:04 pm

nothing makes me feel lonelier than being around other people. unless it's in a big-city millions-of-strangers situation. but i could totally live in, as a previous caller said, a nature preserve. or an airstream in the desert, or a cabin on a mountain.



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29 Dec 2009, 6:10 pm

I tried the cabin on a mountain idea but after a big snorting bear came by the cabin decided I didn't want to be lunch, or dinner.



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29 Dec 2009, 6:18 pm

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I never get lonely either, and I live in solitude in the woods (a nature preserve). It is beautiful and quiet.



Oh, you lucky #@!*&%! ! :P


I get lonesome on occasion, but I've only known a handful of people in my life I genuinely enjoyed being around for extended periods (up to four full hours!), and I haven't seen any of them for years.

I miss sex with people more than I miss people.

I've tried marriage three times now and I just don't have the tolerance for it. Sharing living space with others stresses me to to the breaking point. Even as a child, I fantasized constantly about running away from home. That book 'From the Mixed-up files of Mrs. Basil E Frankweiler' was like porn to me as a kid. To run away from home and live in a museum with Dinosaurs and Mummies and art...kewl. :D



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29 Dec 2009, 6:32 pm

What are we all doing here.......



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29 Dec 2009, 6:37 pm

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What are we all doing here.......

Exchanging knowledge.



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29 Dec 2009, 6:39 pm

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What are we all doing here.......


Trying to prove we do not need to be??!


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29 Dec 2009, 6:39 pm

I'm very lonely, especially since I used to have someone to hang out with... It was great having conversations, laughing, and playing video games together. I want that. Not the years of isolation I am going to go through! :(



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29 Dec 2009, 6:59 pm

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I tried the cabin on a mountain idea but after a big snorting bear came by the cabin decided I didn't want to be lunch, or dinner.


I regularly meet up with or see black bears. They are utterly harmless, even the sows with cubs. All the birds and animals (and plants) are attractive and interesting.



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29 Dec 2009, 7:01 pm

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I feel like my iq drops to 40 when I'm around people.


This applies to me too. But, i think its because nothing about an NT interaction aligns with what makes me happy?... Mind you i like closeness and 'being' with others, but i don't ever feel ( nor think) that I need them. Although, if I believed in the power of politics, i suppose i would need others. My life is full of everyday ordinary management stuff + all the things that interest me...Idon't feel lonely. I do like to have a "calm" sense of place too, so perhaps I am inclined to agree with

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29 Dec 2009, 7:06 pm

Not prone to loneliness in general as I was raised as an only child and if it were not for enjoying my husband's company so much I would be mostly a loner.

It would be nice to have a close female real world friend for serious conversation , but I'd rather be alone than have a mere superficial "shopping friend".


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29 Dec 2009, 7:53 pm

Yes, and even some other people with AS find it hard to believe. Not once in my life have I ever felt lonely. I posted a comment on this clip on you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWY3ntr3sdI. Someone sent me a message that contained this:
"Hi, I was just curious about your comment. You say you never get lonely, but if that is true it looks like you support AutismSpeaks since you subscribe to their videos. AutismSpeaks searches for a cure for Autism and Aspergers. We are all human. Autism and Aspergers is a gift to all who have it, but since we are human we also seek connection too. I have aspergers and I love my interest where I focus on it a lot. What i have learned is sometimes we do seek friendships we need to survive even if it is within our interest. Just to let you know, I think you probably do get lonely sometimes.
theamazinj"

Wrong! How dare anyone tell me I get lonely. I DO NOT! And I don't subscribe to Autism Speaks, but
AutismSpeaksV1ds. I have no need of friendship or people I do not get loney.


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29 Dec 2009, 8:12 pm

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I am. People rarely believe me when I tell them I don't get lonely. I remember people responding to the statement by saying things like "of course you get lonely everyone does". I find it mildly amusing when people simply wont believe something you know to be true. For all its downsides high functioning autism has its fair share of benefits. How is it for all of you?


I think it's probably true that most people get lonely, and that it's hard for them to grasp the idea of not getting lonely. I don't want to go so far as to say I'm immune to loneliness 100% of the time, but I do think I'm more like you in this regard than the average person. I'm trying to think back to the last time I felt loneliness. I can't think of one, but I'm sure I must have at one time or other. Sometimes it's nice to be with another person, but I can always, always, always find something to do by myself. I enjoy just sitting in a chair and imagining things.


Since I'm married with two kids, I rarely have a chance to be truly alone for any extended time, but I kind of like the idea of just being left alone for a few weeks. :lol: I really enjoy my space and my time to myself.

I'm more likely to feel the emptiness of not being alone. There isn't even a word for it, is there? When you feel the emptiness of not having people around (or pets), it's called loneliness. But what if you have people in your space, and need to be away from them? I feel like that quite often. When I was working at a job (now I'm a stay-at-home mom, which is still work, but unpaid), the hardest part was always trying to do a competent job with other people lurking around. I don't dislike people. Well, I somehow manage to dislike nearly every boss I ever had, and most co-workers. And most roommates. :lol: But in general, I don't dislike people. I just prefer them out of my space.



I also have two kids and we live with their dad, this completely changes things i would definitely miss my kids. Somehow people are out of sight out of mind for me if they dont call me I sort of forget about them . Before I had kids I lived in the high desert in Utah at first I had a roomate she was exhausting to be around when I came back from a trip she had moved it was empty and i didnt care I was just so happy. For a brief time I was living completely alone with my chickens geese and cat they were all the companionship i wanted this was by far the best time of my life, my own world . Oh and I have had the exact same experience with jobs sometimes I felt like the only competent person there.



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29 Dec 2009, 8:22 pm

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I tried the cabin on a mountain idea but after a big snorting bear came by the cabin decided I didn't want to be lunch, or dinner.


I regularly meet up with or see black bears. They are utterly harmless, even the sows with cubs. All the birds and animals (and plants) are attractive and interesting.


Wildlife is wonderful and I have always enjoyed it very much. This was a very big bear and I have heard stories about hungry bears, even black bears who will try to enter through a window if hungry enough. I wouldn't do anything to harm one and that's why I moved to a setting very nearby that felt a little less wild to me. Just my personal preference.



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29 Dec 2009, 8:39 pm

Millie's back???? HI MILLIE!! !! :D :D :D :D



To answer the OP: I do not long for the company of humans simply for the sake of the company of humans. I can, at times, feel lonely for the companionship of a particular person who I feel strongly for. But I do not get "lonely" in the standard definition where one just wants to be around others.

I have no friends and my one companion is long distance and I only speak to him through the computer. But I do not suffer at all for this 'lack of companionship'.

Also, I see earlier in the thread someone mentioned being on WP as a sign of wanting companionship. While that is a very valid point, my reasons for posting on WP are not exactly to communicate/socialize with others. I have a very strong desire to express my thoughts. Unfortunately another person is required for such expression. If I do not have an outlet to express my thoughts, they buzz around in my head and drive me nuts. I don't particularly care if anyone reads them or responds, but I have to get them out. A blog is also a satisfactory form of outlet as is writing on a paper. But it does make me feel even better if the blog is public so that others can read or if I show the paper to someone. I wonder why that is? I suppose the desire to express oneself can be interpreted as a desire to communicate? And therefore to socialize? And therefore lonlieness if it is not realized?

Hmm interesting train of thought.. I will have to ponder this.