Autism and a heightened sense of psychic abilities
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And anybody who thinks educating yourself is bulls**t, go away you don't deserve to be on this forum.
I understand where you're coming from, but you can't assume that I or anyone who posted here is uneducated and has not done research. I'm in my last semester of college and I didn't believe in 'mystical' stuff like this until a couple of years ago, and thought very strongly of it. However, I picked up this book, written by an Psychiatrist, an obviously educated person, who backs up her theory (which is in bold because I am not claiming that what she says is fact), with scientific data. She explains how string theory relates to the ESP phenomenon how it could possibly allow for its existence. If you would like to have a balanced argument yourself, I recommend you read it. It's called The ESP Enigma, and I would be happy to read any material that you have found for your argument against it ESP. I am also not claiming that I am an expert on the topic, I was intrigued by this book and simply had a question.
I don't believe in horoscopes or that crystals can heal me; rocks and the universe don't give a crap about us in my opinion, but I'm not going to bash the people who do believe in it. You also mentioned that alternative medicine is BS, and I am fan of it, especially for anxiety and other common ailments. If the things I tried did not work, I would not be wasting my money on it. Many common over-the-counter medications are simply synthesized versions of plants. My brother and I argued about alternative medicine one night, and my basic response is that one has the choice to use whatever they like, and I certainly would not recommend that a cancer patient use only kombucha and hope. Although I am not a science major, I have taken many science classes in my college career because they interest me, and I like to know the facts. If there is a possibility of ESP, why not choose to explore it, scientifically? It's been written off as new age crap for so long, hardly anyone would think of venturing the subject both scientifically and philosophically. But it could have validity, and if we can obtain an other consciousness, we would obtain a great power.
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And anybody who thinks educating yourself is bulls**t, go away you don't deserve to be on this forum.
Psychics can be quite educated. The perception doesn't rule out the educated. In fact, a psychic could very well be a genuis. In fact, many geniuses may be psychics, they just don't advertise it. Maybe their psychic ability helped them achieve in life. Of course, they aren't going to go about blurting it out because of comments by people who share your idea that belief in extrasensory perception must mean you are dumb.
People think I'm psychic, but I don't think I am. I really want to do more research on pattern recognition with autism, but I think that's what goes on. I just really pick up patterns of behavior easier than other people, and the patterns I see are not exactly considered common patterns I suppose. Like to me, hate is love. You wouldn't hate someone if you didnt care about them one way or the other. Either way, as obvious as that is to me, it's not so obvious among most people, so when some guy at a bar tells me his girlfriend just dumped him and now he hates her and is wanting to get back at her, when I say, no you are still in love with her and you are just hurt, he assumes I am psychic. When I tell my friend her friend is using cocaine based on the way the eyes look and the behaviors, she assumes I must be a little psychic when she finds out how right I was.
Now wait, one thing I do think I'm psychic about is love and relationships or something like that. I call myself the sex psychic. I'm really sensitive to body chemistry. Like I can watch a porn video and feel nothing because of my lack of empathy and the two people usually don't even want to be with each other and just want to get paid, not laid. Hah. Anyway, if I see two people who are totally in to each other talking in a restaurant, then I am ready to cuddle with my man just because I can really feel the other people's chemistry if that makes sense. What I hate though is when a guy is really attracted to me, I feel an attraction to him but only when he's around. I hate that because I'm married and I don't like feeling things like that, especially some of the guys being nasty on the inside (decent looking on the outside) because it makes me nauseous for days. But at least now I know what guys to not be alone with...lol. I can also sense sexual oddities, but I don't know what they are exactly. I just get a weird vibe from certain men like they have sex with minors or are more apt to rape a woman or something. Sometimes I can tell what it is based on logic, but most of the time, I just know to stay away. I also hate when my friends ask me my opinion on some guy they like, and I know he's just a playa or totally isn't interested. I don't know what to say in those situations. I usually end up lying a little cause I could be wrong, right?
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Hello, all. I am currently reading a book called The ESP Enigma, which throughout the book mentions what kinds of people are more susceptible to ESP and other psychic phenomena, and they are: women, extroverts, schizophrenics, those with brain damage or have experienced a near-death-experience, and autistics (however, mostly savants). Although many of the claims to psychic abilities and brain functioning is contradictory to the idea that Autistic Savants have a greater psychic ability (such as most people who claim to experience ESP are extroverts, which is not a trait generally assigned to autists), I found the passage very interesting. I personally experience minor "precognitive dreams," which is when I have a dream of something that is going to happen that coming day (I have yet to actually change the outcome of the event even when I'm aware of what is going to happen), and have other psychic abilities, like the ability to predict what someone will be doing with his/her life in five or ten years...not to brag.
The are no psy powers or ESP. I suppose being autistic or aspie might lead one to the mistaken impression that he has such powers.
ruveyn
Has anyone else experienced ESP-like phenomena, and think it is possibly linked to the way an autistic brain works?
I don't regard any of this as a science. To me all of it is anecdotal, just like religion. People have a right to share their experiences about it.
The all-knowing, wise and humble Supreme Genius has spoken! What great wisdom thou hast acquired in thine long 23 years!
Blessed be he who understands all things and who sees into the depths of the universe and all creation where no one has yet seen!
How infinitely wise is he who maintains unswerving faith in the knowledge of mankind - for man has discovered everything that is or will be!
Only man knows what is possible and what is not! Revere the ancients, who said: "If man were meant to fly, he'd have been born with wings"
Wow, way to put words in my mouth, buddy. what proof is there that this stuff is not just hallucination or wishful thinking? Falsifiability is the core of science, and a lot of the claims of psychic powers have either been debunked or are described in a way that makes falsification impossible.
I had another precog moment today... was listening to a song on my iPod and as soon as it was over, I thought of the next song before it started... and before anyone says, I had it on Shuffle and it was a 58-song playlist. Course, as soon as I started TRYING to predict songs after that, it didn't work.
I think the reason skeptics are so quick to bash psychic abilities is because it has yet to be proven in a scientific setting. Basically, somebody does something paranormal and nobody believes them because they can't do it again. But our conscious self is only a small percentage of our mind, any paranormal ability we do have would most likely be in our subconsious rather than our conscious self. In other words, most psychic abilities won't happen if you are thinking about it, which makes it almost impossible to replicate in a scientific setting.
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I have had a number of incidents with possible psychic abilities over the years.
I remember the Haley Joel Osment character in Sixth Sense, "I talk to dead people."
I had an incident last year where this exact thing happened to me. I often talk about the flood that hit the community that I live in (Cedar Rapids, Iowa) last year. Right after the flood, I wanted to help and do as much as possible. Sadly, the biggest job that was needed was mucking houses, which I was unable to do due to my asthma. There were a number times where people were asking for help, but again rebuffed me and were nasty to me if I wanted to assist them.
I got so discouraged by this behavior in people, that one day I went and talked to an elderly couple that were my mentors from church at their gravesite. He had died the year before, and she had died earlier the year of the flood. Both of them were very active in the community (he held different public offices for a long time), were socialites, and were well respected in the community. I knew them for a little over five years when they died and they were almost like grandparents to me. We had a very close relationship that has changed my life for the better.
I talked to them about the flood and the way I was treated by people in the community. Strangely enough, two days later I am in the library, and for some reason I pick up a copy of the Des Moines paper (the largest city in my state and the state capital). Lone, and behold in the paper on that day, there was a rather large writeup about a close childhood friend that was appointed mayor of the community of Palo, Iowa, a community that was heavily impacted by the same flood. I knew my friend had been elected to the town council due to the fact that I worked with his uncle, but I did not know he had been appointed to mayor. My friend and I had not been close for about 10 years, after we left high school, but still run into one another out and about.
I was deeply taken back by this article and the timing with the conversation that I had with my deceased mentors. They were always introducing me to people of importance in the community, and I talked frequently about my childhood friends and our experiences. What was even more bizarre was the fact that I started hearing about making a connection with my friend from other public officials that I knew from my political volunteer work a little later on. He had a habit of telling people including our governor and congressman that he didn't need any help with his community, and was kind of off putting to people. Growing up, I was one of the few people he would listen to.
His community needed help, and even though he could be off putting with me, I was able to get him to listen and give him direction on what to do. Some of the things that we did are considered innovative that the state and federal government have taken a look at applying in the responce to future natural disasters. My friend and I had a big disagreement, but I am very proud of the six months I was able to help him.
This whole situation is how my mentors would of responded to me had they still been alive. I am awed, but believe that their is a sixth sense out there.
Is witchcraft more of a science than quantum physics? By the doctrine of falsification it is. Just ask all the critics of Karl Popper.
One of my favorite questions is to the judge who has to decide my case. The Law School I went to guaranteed I'd win my first court case, or I wouldn't have to pay my tuition. I graduated, then I refused to pay my tuition and the school took me to court and demanded that the Judge order me to pay my tuition. Since that was my first case, I just asked the judge if he should enforce the school's guarantee.
Bayesian Probabilities also prove my psychic abilities, at least more often than naught.
I'm psychic with the future too. Here's a simple yes or no question that I know you'll answer incorrectly:
Will you answer no to this question?
By the way, that IS the question.
See, my prediction that you would answer incorrectly was absolutely correct.
Compliments of Raymond Smullyan and Associates.
Then, some very simple things are not to be known. My favorite illustration is the question: If you visit Lake Disappointment to see if it lives up to its name, will you be disappointed?
Simple riddles will always frustrate the greatest sets of logic and rules of reason and sciences of humanity, as Bertrand Russell endlessly discovered.
Tadzio
Even though it's been shown on sensors that detect electric/magnetic fields that humans do generate energy fields, which is what psionics basically are. Manipulating that energy
And anybody who thinks educating yourself is bulls**t, go away you don't deserve to be on this forum.
FAIL.
Your ESP could tell what he had in his harddrive
Or was he thinking "Let's kidnap some loli"
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Most people don't realize that science itself is anecdotal and can be misguided. At one time scientists thought the earth was flat until other scientists came along and proved them wrong. Who knows, maybe, at some point, someone will prove the theory that earth is supposedly sphere shaped wrong, too?
Is witchcraft more of a science than quantum physics? By the doctrine of falsification it is. Just ask all the critics of Karl Popper.
One of my favorite questions is to the judge who has to decide my case. The Law School I went to guaranteed I'd win my first court case, or I wouldn't have to pay my tuition. I graduated, then I refused to pay my tuition and the school took me to court and demanded that the Judge order me to pay my tuition. Since that was my first case, I just asked the judge if he should enforce the school's guarantee.
Bayesian Probabilities also prove my psychic abilities, at least more often than naught.
I'm psychic with the future too. Here's a simple yes or no question that I know you'll answer incorrectly:
Will you answer no to this question?
By the way, that IS the question.
See, my prediction that you would answer incorrectly was absolutely correct.
Compliments of Raymond Smullyan and Associates.
Then, some very simple things are not to be known. My favorite illustration is the question: If you visit Lake Disappointment to see if it lives up to its name, will you be disappointed?
Simple riddles will always frustrate the greatest sets of logic and rules of reason and sciences of humanity, as Bertrand Russell endlessly discovered.
Tadzio
How is Quantum Mechanics not falsifiable?
Hi Odin,
You ask "How is Quantum Mechanics not falsifiable?"
Einstein brought this fundamental problem of quantum physics to public attention with his proclamation challenging fellow scientistists to disprove "God does not play dice with the Universe."
It is generally held that Einstein's stance on Quantum Mechanics was accepted as disproven by statistical evidence.
Back in the 1980's at my University, the dividing line between large scale physics and small scale physics was drawn at the scale of determining the precise momentum of an electron at the expense of knowing its precise location, and vice-versa. This paradox is called Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, and is again somewhat of a "mini-fad" on television shows again. The "Copenhagen Interpretation" (1927) is almost the identical philosophy using a statistical wave-function to predict the probabilities of measurements.
A large scale model of this is "Schrodinger's Cat," which seems like a joke, but like Fred Hoyle's insult with the "Big Bang" label to the origin of the universe, became widely accepted as scientific truth. Two models of statistics used with all this is the Bayesian and the "Frequency" models of probability theory.
The statistics of physics and the statistics used for the DSM are different versions of the same models, with the DSM protocols being very sloppy, and generally, everybody just quickly looking away whenever something goes wrong. Physical medicine is in between the two, and my favorite statistical experiment was an early one on the "effects" of blood cholesterol levels and health; it was a "two-tail" experiment, but the results weren't what they wanted, so they changed it to a "one-tail" experiment to get the results they wanted (the change violated all the protocols of statistical experiments, but they wanted "proof" no matter what).
The notion of "falsifiable" involves true or false logic, but reality requires acceptance with margins of error, and the degree of margin of error is arbitrarily decided. Then, chance fluctuations opens the door to Bayesian Probability Theories (the most popular example now is the "Monty Hall Paradox").
On a near purely philosophical level, the notion of random numbers is self-contradictory as soon as a precise definition is attempted, I like the steady-state universe over the big-bang universe (dream up some excuse for Obler's Paradox), and believing in the uncertainty principle has no more foundation in physics than believing that a week has seven days has a foundation in physics (and, the frequency model of probability just means everyone is too lazy to count to large numbers).
Tadzio
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