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14 Mar 2010, 8:34 pm

Hector wrote:
... may make unfair judgments about you.


If they do, punch them too.



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14 Mar 2010, 8:40 pm

That won't solve anything.



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14 Mar 2010, 8:52 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:
Obviously that's a simple topic question. :-) My dad while in the store saw my flapping and said STOP! Get away from me if you are going to do that you look ret*d!! I was like oh and put my hands in my pockets and fidgetted with my fingers around in my pocket. I fidget with my fingers ALOT! So does anyone else NOT like your hand flapping? :-(

Only ignorant people think that. No one in my family or close to me looks at me weird for doing it or tell me to stop. When I was little I got told to stop fidgeting but there's a lot more awareness about AS these days so it's more accepted.

Zelda, you need to tell your family to accept you the way you are. It's impossible to change yourself (even if you wanted to) and if they want you to then that isn't showing love. I've read so many posts where your family has told you to stop doing things or treat you in a disrespectful way. It's not right and their behavior needs to stop, not yours.


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14 Mar 2010, 8:58 pm

pensieve wrote:
zeldapsychology wrote:
Obviously that's a simple topic question. :-) My dad while in the store saw my flapping and said STOP! Get away from me if you are going to do that you look ret*d!! I was like oh and put my hands in my pockets and fidgetted with my fingers around in my pocket. I fidget with my fingers ALOT! So does anyone else NOT like your hand flapping? :-(

Only ignorant people think that. No one in my family or close to me looks at me weird for doing it or tell me to stop. When I was little I got told to stop fidgeting but there's a lot more awareness about AS these days so it's more accepted.

Zelda, you need to tell your family to accept you the way you are. It's impossible to change yourself (even if you wanted to) and if they want you to then that isn't showing love. I've read so many posts where your family has told you to stop doing things or treat you in a disrespectful way. It's not right and their behavior needs to stop, not yours.


Couldn't of said it better myself thank you very very much. :-)



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14 Mar 2010, 9:09 pm

*scratches head*

I thought aspies were very rarely affected by body awareness issues (the primary reason for major stims such as hand flapping)???


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14 Mar 2010, 9:13 pm

KoS wrote:
*scratches head*

I thought aspies were very rarely affected by body awareness issues (the primary reason for major stims such as hand flapping)???


I think if your family is constantly putting you down about it you would become aware. I know I was aware at some point because I try to hide some of my stranger stimming. Snce I have a family that is supportive I didn't know I did some stuff until I asked.



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14 Mar 2010, 9:31 pm

pensieve wrote:
zeldapsychology wrote:
Obviously that's a simple topic question. :-) My dad while in the store saw my flapping and said STOP! Get away from me if you are going to do that you look ret*d!! I was like oh and put my hands in my pockets and fidgetted with my fingers around in my pocket. I fidget with my fingers ALOT! So does anyone else NOT like your hand flapping? :-(

Only ignorant people think that. No one in my family or close to me looks at me weird for doing it or tell me to stop. When I was little I got told to stop fidgeting but there's a lot more awareness about AS these days so it's more accepted.

Zelda, you need to tell your family to accept you the way you are. It's impossible to change yourself (even if you wanted to) and if they want you to then that isn't showing love. I've read so many posts where your family has told you to stop doing things or treat you in a disrespectful way. It's not right and their behavior needs to stop, not yours.


It's impossible to change yourself? How fatalistic is that? Of course it's possible.

And the reason why your family doesn't remark about your stims is because they know you, and expect it. The average dude on the street does not, and does not know you personally. Thus, it looks odd.

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14 Mar 2010, 9:33 pm

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My parents didn't like this either, but I can see why. Basically, practically nobody else does it so it singles you out, thus the people who you may have to work or associate with may make unfair judgments about you. Try to limit how often you flap your hands in public.


yeah, i think hector sums it up pretty well here. Flapping your hands is a notable, and noticeable gesture out there. Whether or not you mind being noticed (and possibly judged) is up to you.

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14 Mar 2010, 11:29 pm

pumibel wrote:
KoS wrote:
*scratches head*

I thought aspies were very rarely affected by body awareness issues (the primary reason for major stims such as hand flapping)???


I think if your family is constantly putting you down about it you would become aware. I know I was aware at some point because I try to hide some of my stranger stimming. Snce I have a family that is supportive I didn't know I did some stuff until I asked.


Yeah I looked it up, apparently not that uncommon!!


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14 Mar 2010, 11:32 pm

LukeInFlames wrote:
pensieve wrote:
zeldapsychology wrote:
Obviously that's a simple topic question. :-) My dad while in the store saw my flapping and said STOP! Get away from me if you are going to do that you look ret*d!! I was like oh and put my hands in my pockets and fidgetted with my fingers around in my pocket. I fidget with my fingers ALOT! So does anyone else NOT like your hand flapping? :-(

Only ignorant people think that. No one in my family or close to me looks at me weird for doing it or tell me to stop. When I was little I got told to stop fidgeting but there's a lot more awareness about AS these days so it's more accepted.

Zelda, you need to tell your family to accept you the way you are. It's impossible to change yourself (even if you wanted to) and if they want you to then that isn't showing love. I've read so many posts where your family has told you to stop doing things or treat you in a disrespectful way. It's not right and their behavior needs to stop, not yours.


It's impossible to change yourself? How fatalistic is that? Of course it's possible.

And the reason why your family doesn't remark about your stims is because they know you, and expect it. The average dude on the street does not, and does not know you personally. Thus, it looks odd.

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Let me rephrase that...
I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE MYSELF!
And there are things that are impossible to change about myself. I could force myself to be more social and end up with social anxiety, so no that's not going to happen. I force myself to learn maths and then I forget it. I force myself to concentrate and get mentally exhausted. I can force myself to stand up straight then start slumping my shoulders again. I can force eye contact but not keep it. I could go on and on and on.
With AS, ADHD and a few LD's in there it's a lot harder to try and change yourself.
I also couldn't give a crap if anyone that I'd only ever see once thought it looked odd.


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15 Mar 2010, 12:07 am

zeldapsychology wrote:
So does anyone else NOT like your hand flapping? :-(


my mom used to not like it, I think... I believe it's because hand-flapping was the only obvious visual sign that makes me "look autistic", so it always kind of took her by surprise. Also, my family used to tease me about hand-flapping with good intentions, but it made me really self-conscious. However, once I told them that they were making me self-conscious, they stopped right away :)

I stamp out any urges to stim at school, though- if I need to move my hands around, I shake my hand like I'm trying to shake my shirt sleeve back :P


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15 Mar 2010, 12:15 am

sociable_hermit wrote:
It does look odd. And I say that as someone who used to flap their hands a lot, when I was excited.

I've managed to tone it down now, to the same sort of gestures that NTs use. So I'll rub or 'wring' my hands rather than flapping them. Will still tap my feet when I'm concentrating, and scratch my head when I'm stressed, but these things are more acceptable and go largely unnnoticed. BTW I'm 34 years old.

It takes a lot of determination and practice to look 'normal'. Whether you want to do that is, of course, another debate entirely.



I am pretty much the same way, except i inadvertiantly started flapping my right hand a bit with my arm down, (hopefully nobody noticed), while i was talking to one of my college instructors. I hope she didn't notice otherwise she might get wierded out (my college instructors don't know about my ASD).

I usually have my hands behind my back and wring them as such so nobody would notice.Sometimes i rub my neck and/or behind my ears.


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15 Mar 2010, 12:16 am

I used to flap one of my hands in my younger school years, and classmates used to call me ret*d and ask why I do that.


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15 Mar 2010, 12:17 am

I wouldn't use the word ret*d, but drawing negative attention to oneself in public is never a good thing.



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15 Mar 2010, 3:10 am

LukeInFlames wrote:
pensieve wrote:
zeldapsychology wrote:
Obviously that's a simple topic question. :-) My dad while in the store saw my flapping and said STOP! Get away from me if you are going to do that you look ret*d!! I was like oh and put my hands in my pockets and fidgetted with my fingers around in my pocket. I fidget with my fingers ALOT! So does anyone else NOT like your hand flapping? :-(

Only ignorant people think that. No one in my family or close to me looks at me weird for doing it or tell me to stop. When I was little I got told to stop fidgeting but there's a lot more awareness about AS these days so it's more accepted.

Zelda, you need to tell your family to accept you the way you are. It's impossible to change yourself (even if you wanted to) and if they want you to then that isn't showing love. I've read so many posts where your family has told you to stop doing things or treat you in a disrespectful way. It's not right and their behavior needs to stop, not yours.


It's impossible to change yourself? How fatalistic is that? Of course it's possible.

And the reason why your family doesn't remark about your stims is because they know you, and expect it. The average dude on the street does not, and does not know you personally. Thus, it looks odd.

-Luke


The average dude on the street can grow up and try not to be so bothered by things looking odd. If the average dude on the street can't manage that, then the average dude on the street can go f**k himself.


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15 Mar 2010, 3:18 am

Punching judgmental morons solves pretty much everything.

When people realize there's a consequence to emotional pain they cause (saying you're a ret*d because you flap your hands is emotional pain), society starts to be a nicer place to be in in regards to abuse.

It took me a while to figure this out (slow on uptake and too nice for own good...), but it works better than everything.